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Re: Sound for calculators with bad ram
« Reply #45 on: November 14, 2010, 01:20:55 pm »
DJ, thanks for finding the bug with the C++ runtime libraries. I've had several people tell me they weren't necessary, but I guess they are.

With the microsoft 8 bit pcm, I don't know what other format they could have used. 8 bit seems pretty straight forward to me. One possibility is that my speed test actually finds a glitch in wabbitEmu. The instruction ADC HL,BC runs 4 t-states too fast. WabbitEmu is supposed to run at 15,000,000 Hz which gives a proper sample rate of 15,000,000/696=21,552. But if you say that you had to double the speed, then there's a different problem.

So are you saying that an 8 bit song playing at twice the speed was the same size as a 16 bit file playing at the right speed?

And finally, wabbitEmu tends to add some really nasty high pitch noises into the song. (It might be the sound card too). So don't think that those are final. But surprisingly, you're song didn't do it DJ, that might be because it was made with a computer.
8 bit unsigned PCM songs play at the exact same speed as the 16 bit signed ones. I wonder if it's because it's unsigned? Unfortunately Audacity got rid of the compression settings in preferences and you now select them when exporting to wav. However, 8 bit signed is not present there, neither is 16 bit unsigned.
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Re: Sound for calculators with bad ram
« Reply #46 on: November 15, 2010, 03:05:11 pm »
The reason you can't select 8 bit signed and 16 bit unsigned is because 8 bit unsigned and 16 bit signed are the default values.The unsigned 8 bits go from 0 to 255 and the signed 16 bits go from -32,767 to 32,768. In reality, it doesn't really matter whether it is signed or unsigned, as long as you know which one it is.

The 16 bit and 8 bit should come out to the same size and speed because my program converts the 16 bit to 8 bit. It also converts stereo to mono
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Re: Sound for calculators with bad ram
« Reply #47 on: November 15, 2010, 10:06:47 pm »
Oh ok, so then it was pointless from me to convert it to 8 bit, as I notice the quality is slightly better when converting a 16 bit WAV to 8xk than a 8 bit to 8xk.

Regardless, nice job on this. :)

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Re: Sound for calculators with bad ram
« Reply #48 on: November 19, 2010, 11:29:35 pm »
Question: I'm going to upload this to ticalc.org tonight, but, would it be ok to put the youtube link with the video?

I can't really post a proper screenshot of this, and the video makes it look amazing. So I'm kind of stuck because I feel like ticalc.org doesn't like links.
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Re: Sound for calculators with bad ram
« Reply #49 on: November 20, 2010, 01:53:08 am »
Travis Evans told you on IRC the other night to not put the link in the file description, so you would probably have to put it in the readme. I think links messes up their description systems. Just put a link in the readme and they'll be fine.

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Re: Sound for calculators with bad ram
« Reply #50 on: November 20, 2010, 04:47:10 am »
Travis Evans told you on IRC the other night to not put the link in the file description, so you would probably have to put it in the readme. I think links messes up their description systems. Just put a link in the readme and they'll be fine.

Thanks for passing the word along. Until this question was asked, I hadn't really thought much about URLs in ticalc.org file descriptions; I just went ahead and approved them. But when I looked back in the logs, it turns out that some file archivers in the past did reject files for having URLs in the descriptions. There are a couple of issues: first, they can't be formatted as links (so users would have to manually copy and paste the URL to get to the page), and if the URL happened to be really long it could screw up the page formatting. So my conclusion is that it's maybe best to have the links in the readme or as a link in an HTML file in the ZIP somewhere or something similar that the description can point to.
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Re: Sound for calculators with bad ram
« Reply #51 on: November 20, 2010, 05:05:15 am »
Back in the days, MaxCoderz staff would put links to their site in all their descriptions and they would get through. Eventually, I tried doing the same but the URL (even if without the http://www part) was usually removed. With Youtube I can see how this would distort the page, though. Plus it makes the description a bit hard to read IMHO.

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Re: Sound for calculators with bad ram
« Reply #52 on: November 21, 2010, 12:28:32 pm »
Ok, thanks for telling me. I missed Travis's message on IRC so the file is already in the upload queue with the link in the description. If that is going to get rejected, should I just upload it again with a different description?

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   RealSound has a link in its description.
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Re: Sound for calculators with bad ram
« Reply #53 on: November 21, 2010, 06:19:27 pm »
Btw, coincidentially, the upload form hasn't been working for two days, now. It says an error. ???

If it has the description, you may want to update the upload (use the same file name) when the upload form works again.

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Re: Sound for calculators with bad ram
« Reply #54 on: November 23, 2010, 04:15:21 pm »
I went ahead and approved the file since I haven't been rejecting files with links in descriptions in the past. If you want to remove the URL from the description, let me know and I can do it, or you can simply upload an update with an updated description (file upload form should be working again now).
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Re: Sound for calculators with bad ram
« Reply #55 on: November 23, 2010, 11:09:38 pm »
I thought he re-uploaded it? O.O

I guess update will do the job, then.

That reminds me, was RealSound ever uploaded to ticalc.org?

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Re: Sound for calculators with bad ram
« Reply #56 on: November 24, 2010, 10:50:37 am »
That reminds me, was RealSound ever uploaded to ticalc.org?
Yeah. I downloaded it from there.

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Re: Sound for calculators with bad ram
« Reply #57 on: November 24, 2010, 11:20:06 am »
Thanks Travis :D

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Re: Sound for calculators with bad ram
« Reply #58 on: November 24, 2010, 05:24:05 pm »
That reminds me, was RealSound ever uploaded to ticalc.org?
Yeah. I downloaded it from there.
Ah ok, thanks for confirming. I wasn't sure since Revsoft staff don't always upload their releases there. (Wabbitemu)


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Re: Sound for calculators with bad ram
« Reply #59 on: November 25, 2010, 11:05:58 am »
Hmm, just got this from ticalc and I could use some help locating some castlevania wavs x.x

I tried everywhere and could use some help. thanks in a advance