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Re: TI-84+ hardware change info (causing all APPs using extra RAM pages to crash)
« Reply #45 on: October 11, 2009, 01:06:16 pm »
I'm sorry  to say you'll need a TI84+ Silver Edition for Pokémon
Kirby, Tetris and other smaller games should work tho
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Re: TI-84+ hardware change info (causing all APPs using extra RAM pages to crash)
« Reply #46 on: October 11, 2009, 03:29:26 pm »
Though, if it really is an I, it won't work at all. The "1007", for October 2007, seems to be after the time of the hardware change anyway.
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Re: TI-84+ hardware change info (causing all APPs using extra RAM pages to crash)
« Reply #47 on: November 02, 2009, 03:59:41 am »
Quote from: calc84maniac on October 11, 2009, 03:29:26 pm
Though, if it really is an I, it won't work at all. The "1007", for October 2007, seems to be after the time of the hardware change anyway.

Yes, if we're right (up to now we ARE right), it won't work...

The I-hardware revision is too recent...


But it would be interesting to try, as if I remember well, we haven't had I-revisions for our tests...

We got FGH, and then JKL revisions.


Does anybody have finally figured out what's inside the TA1 chip?
(by asking TI... by exploding the chip... by testing it electronically...)
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Re: TI-84+ hardware change info (causing all APPs using extra RAM pages to crash)
« Reply #48 on: November 02, 2009, 04:10:53 am »
Not yet, the entire thing seems to have died down :(

I know on Omni this is less likely to happen, since everyone here are into game developpement, not hardware, but I hope someone in #tcpa like BrandonW or someone on UTI or Cemetech can discover the issue. I am really curious what RAM there is in it, in total
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Re: TI-84+ hardware change info (causing all APPs using extra RAM pages to crash)
« Reply #49 on: January 13, 2010, 03:38:21 am »
Before we know what happened to the RAM, BrandonW released in his website a routine to test if the calculator has the extra RAM pages.
http://www.brandonw.net/calcstuff/ramtest.zip

The test is simple but coming from Brandon, it should work...
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Re: TI-84+ hardware change info (causing all APPs using extra RAM pages to crash)
« Reply #50 on: January 13, 2010, 03:47:49 pm »
Dr. DNar had written a working test too. (maybe brandon uploaded it to his site?)
Anyway, the fact that it  is on his site probably indicates the thing works.  ;D
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Re: TI-84+ hardware change info (causing all APPs using extra RAM pages to crash)
« Reply #51 on: January 13, 2010, 04:13:35 pm »
Yeah I saw this several months ago, altough I am not sure if it was posted on Omnimaga
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Re: TI-84+ hardware change info (causing all APPs using extra RAM pages to crash)
« Reply #52 on: January 13, 2010, 04:34:21 pm »
Why hasn't calcmaniac84 updated the TI-Boy to test RAM and warn? >:(
hehehe just needing an excuse to use the emotion. xD

It would be nice to have such test. The warning on readme should be kept to prevent people delete almost or all archive to accommodate TI-Boy.
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Re: TI-84+ hardware change info (causing all APPs using extra RAM pages to crash)
« Reply #53 on: January 13, 2010, 04:40:45 pm »
TI-Boy actually warns if you have a faulty hardware. At least, it does since version 0.3 Alpha
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Re: TI-84+ hardware change info (causing all APPs using extra RAM pages to crash)
« Reply #54 on: April 13, 2010, 07:08:15 pm »
I have a TI-84 Plus Silver Edition and when I try to run Pokemon Red, it gives me the ram error.
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Re: TI-84+ hardware change info (causing all APPs using extra RAM pages to crash)
« Reply #55 on: April 13, 2010, 08:08:45 pm »
you probably don't have extra ram page. What is the hardware version? It's the last letter of the serial number found on the back of the calculator
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Re: TI-84+ hardware change info (causing all APPs using extra RAM pages to crash)
« Reply #56 on: April 13, 2010, 08:28:25 pm »
If it ends with the letter H or higher, it's most likely a newer calc. If it has no letter or ends with A through G then it should normally work
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Re: TI-84+ hardware change info (causing all APPs using extra RAM pages to crash)
« Reply #57 on: April 13, 2010, 10:46:15 pm »
it seems like TI has caused yet another awful mess, but this time on the Hardware side. I don't think they even did it intentionally! They probably noticed that for normal use no one ever stick much stuff in the archive anyways, and decided to save a few bucks by omitting some RAM pages from the ICs!
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Re: TI-84+ hardware change info (causing all APPs using extra RAM pages to crash)
« Reply #58 on: April 13, 2010, 11:13:13 pm »
Nah I doubt they did that one to halt dev, because the TI-Nspire came out not long after and the Nspire actually emulates that 128 KB of RAM in 84 mode. They probably did it to reduce production costs, because, you know, $0.005 for an additional 80 KB of memory is A LOT for a big company like Texas Instruments :P
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Re: TI-84+ hardware change info (causing all APPs using extra RAM pages to crash)
« Reply #59 on: April 14, 2010, 01:53:24 am »
What sucks is that I have H model -_-;; It kind of sucks when you are just out of reach to all the stuff you can do with the extra ram :(
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1. ROMANCE MATHEMATICS
Smart man + smart woman = romance
Smart man + dumb woman = affair
Dumb man + smart woman = marriage
Dumb man + dumb woman = pregnancy
2. OFFICE ARITHMETIC
Smart boss + smart employee = profit
Smart boss + dumb employee = production
Dumb boss + smart employee = promotion
Dumb boss + dumb employee = overtime
3. SHOPPING MATH
A man will pay $2 for a $1 item he needs.
A woman will pay $1 for a $2 item that she doesn't need.
4. GENERAL EQUATIONS & STATISTICS
A woman worries about the future until she gets a husband.
A man never worries about the future until he gets a wife.
A successful man is one who makes more money than his wife can spend.
A successful woman is one who can find such a man.
5. HAPPINESS
To be happy with a man, you must understand him a lot and love him a little.
To be happy with a woman, you must love her a lot and not try to understand her at all.
6. LONGEVITY
Married men live longer than single men do, but married men are a lot more willing to die.
7. PROPENSITY TO CHANGE
A woman marries a man expecting he will change, but he doesn't.
A man marries a woman expecting that she won't change, and she does.
8. DISCUSSION TECHNIQUE
A woman has the last word in any argument.
Anything a man says after that is the beginning of a new argument.

Girls = Time * Money (Girls are a combination of time and money)
Time = Money (Time is money)
Girls = Money squared (So, girls are money squared)
Money = sqrt(Evil) (Money is also the root of all evil)
Girls = sqrt(Evil) squared (So, girls are the root of all evil squared)
Girls = Evil (Thus, girls are evil)
*Girls=Evil credit goes to Compynerd255*
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