Post by: MechaTech84 on November 25, 2007, 09:52:00 am
play games
Do most algebra II and Pre-Cal and Calculus (UIL competitions...)
program it in random ways with-out a computer (is this possible, I think it is but I'm not sure...)
Which is better based on price and the above factors?
--Mecha
Post by: lachprog on November 25, 2007, 12:22:00 pm
The Titanium is better than the regular Ti-89.
It has much more archive memory, so you can fit more games and programs on it. :)
It is also a bit faster. And it has a USB port
As for the algebra and calculus i don't think there is any difference between the two models...
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on November 25, 2007, 12:25:00 pm
Post by: simplethinker on November 25, 2007, 12:46:00 pm
| QUOTE (DJ Omnimaga @ 25 Nov, 2007, 19:25) |
| good luck finding a 89, i think it's discontinued |
My cousin has gotten 3 regular 89s from online stores/auctions/classifieds etc. for under $40. My mom just ordered me one for Christmas yesterday (she doesn't know I know). There are still plenty out there.
And there aren't any differences for mathematics that I know of.
Post by: Liazon on November 25, 2007, 01:09:00 pm
if you're lucky, you might be able to find an HW1 calc which can run pretty decent gs, otherwise, it's all the same.
Post by: TIfanx1999 on November 25, 2007, 01:54:00 pm
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Post by: AaroneusTheGreat on November 25, 2007, 03:51:00 pm
| QUOTE |
| My cousin has gotten 3 regular 89s from online stores/auctions/classifieds etc. for under $40. My mom just ordered me one for Christmas yesterday (she doesn't know I know). There are still plenty out there. And there aren't any differences for mathematics that I know of. |
Did you check her email and find the conformation email? I've done that before. %)
I was a devious little bast*** when I was younger. Come to think of it, I still am a little. Not as much now as then. :P
I'd go for the 89Ti if money isn't an issue, but if you really want a good 68k calc, I'd go one step further and get a Voyage 200, it's great. Same archive and ram memory as the 89Ti, plus the bigger and better contrast/resolution of the screen. It runs between the 89 and 89ti in speed, so it's a great middle ground. I like the full keyboard, it makes programming in basic really fast.
Only problem with the Voyage 200 is you can't use it on Standardized Tests. So if you need this for school as well, and not just a fancy piece of electrical excitement, then I'd go with the 89Ti.
Post by: simplethinker on November 25, 2007, 04:33:00 pm
| QUOTE |
| Did you check her email and find the conformation email? I've done that before. rolleyes2.gif I was a devious little bast*** when I was younger. Come to think of it, I still am a little. Not as much now as then. tongue.gif |
I was going to check my email but my mom had forgotten to log out of hers and at the top of the inbox it said "confirmation email" and had a little blurb about an 89.
Post by: Ranman on November 25, 2007, 05:56:00 pm
Yeah... it doesn't have as much memory or the USB port like the "Titanic", but it is better looking and heck of a lot smaller. ;)
Post by: TIfanx1999 on November 27, 2007, 05:29:00 am
Post by: rivereye on November 27, 2007, 05:31:00 am
Post by: Ranman on November 27, 2007, 05:35:00 am
| QUOTE (art_of_camelot @ 27 Nov, 2007, 11:29) |
| @ Ranman heh titanic... lol, except this one hasn't sunk. I hear the TI edition is doing very well. Et all; I thought the original 89 and the titanium editon ran at the same speed(both 12MHz if i remember correctly) ? does the titanium have a slightly faster processor? |
The TI-89 HW1 runs at 10MHz while the HW2, HW3, & HW4 run at 12MHz. Although, as Rivereye stated, I have also heard a rumor that the HW4 runs at 14MHz -- but I thought that was dispelled.
What is the TI Edition? I haven't heard of that. :???:
Post by: TIfanx1999 on November 27, 2007, 07:12:00 am
Post by: Ranman on November 27, 2007, 07:20:00 am
| QUOTE (art_of_camelot @ 27 Nov, 2007, 13:12) |
| ahh ok, but how many people even run HW version 1 anyways? I think I upgrade my old one to HW ver 2. And er um Ti as in Titanium abbreviated... lol :) |
Hey now... are you making fun of my HW1? :D
You know... the HW1 has the better LCD controller. :P
Post by: TIfanx1999 on November 27, 2007, 07:53:00 am
Post by: AaroneusTheGreat on November 27, 2007, 09:06:00 am
I found this out while playing Oblivion before math class in the 11th or 12th grade. And more recently it happened after testing Doom, also right before math class. So I had to reset it using the hot keys during class. :/
I've also heard the 89 HW1 has a better LCD and LCD hardware bus.
Post by: MechaTech84 on November 27, 2007, 11:43:00 am
Any ideas on how to convince my parents that a sophmore in high school needs TWO calculators? hehehe... This could be interesting!
The only thing I have so far is UIL general math lets us use them (and that would help a ton!!! ) and I need SOMETHING worth some cash for Christmas and that's what I chose... whatever....
Thanks for all the replies! --Mecha
Post by: Ranman on November 27, 2007, 12:12:00 pm
| QUOTE (MechaTech84 @ 27 Nov, 2007, 17:43) |
| I think I'll go with the Titanium due to the amount of awesome games I have seen so far.... |
No... Don't do it... Go for the regular 89. :D
I do not know of any games or applications that are specific to the 89 Titanic.
Post by: TIfanx1999 on November 27, 2007, 12:39:00 pm
Post by: JoostinOnline on November 27, 2007, 12:52:00 pm
Post by: Xphoenix on November 27, 2007, 01:09:00 pm
Anyway, I'd go with the 89 for your criteria.
-Play games
All BASIC games work between the two, more ASM is compatible with the regular 89. Now in terms of the memory, well, the 89 has a lot anyway.
-Do math
89 == 89T in terms of math functions
-Program
89 == 89T in terms of programming as well
Post by: Ranman on November 27, 2007, 02:13:00 pm
| QUOTE (Xphoenix @ 27 Nov, 2007, 19:09) |
| My Casio pwns you all. |
I'm not so sure about that...
Unless you are talking about the Casio fx-9860g Slim. That is one cool calculator -- much cooler than anything that TI has right now!
Post by: JoostinOnline on November 27, 2007, 02:17:00 pm
Post by: Liazon on November 27, 2007, 03:46:00 pm
| QUOTE (AaroneusTheGreat @ 27 Nov, 2007, 15:06) |
| I've also heard the 89 HW1 has a better LCD and LCD hardware bus. |
word, though it's probably hard to tell the difference when buying online.
Post by: simplethinker on November 29, 2007, 11:29:00 am
| QUOTE (MechaTech84 @ 27 Nov, 2007, 17:43) |
| Any ideas on how to convince my parents that a sophmore in high school needs TWO calculators? hehehe... This could be interesting! |
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| Do most algebra II and Pre-Cal and Calculus (UIL competitions...) |
I didn't notice this before. For any math class below Calc 3, an 89 is WAY overkill. You won't need even a fraction of its capabilities, and they aren't allowed on any standardized test.
Post by: trevmeister66 on November 29, 2007, 11:41:00 am
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Post by: DJ Omnimaga on November 29, 2007, 01:13:00 pm
Post by: Liazon on November 29, 2007, 02:27:00 pm
| QUOTE (trevmeister66 @ 29 Nov, 2007, 17:41) |
| But they're still fun to have (I need to get mine out again :/ ) |
word
and *Liazon
Post by: MechaTech84 on November 30, 2007, 02:28:00 pm
--Mecha
(Mecha wonders how many people will come up defending the Titanic--Er, I mean Titanium.... Ya, that's it.....)
Post by: MSR5 on November 30, 2007, 02:32:00 pm
Post by: simplethinker on November 30, 2007, 02:33:00 pm
My cousin found one for $30, but the only good thing about it was that it has the same Bible/manual as the 89.
Post by: MechaTech84 on November 30, 2007, 02:38:00 pm
Post by: MSR5 on November 30, 2007, 02:41:00 pm
Post by: Fryedsoft on November 30, 2007, 03:52:00 pm
If you don't care about tests (not sure if the 89 is still allowed on SAT's or if they got wise to it), then go Voyage 200. Bigger screen. keyboard makes programming a cakewalk and is compatible with 89 and 92 basic.
Post by: Ranman on November 30, 2007, 04:41:00 pm
| QUOTE (MSR5 @ 30 Nov, 2007, 20:32) |
| The TI89 ti is far better then the TI89 |
You mean far bigger! :rofl:
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| QUOTE (Fryedsoft @ 30 Nov, 2007, 21:52) |
| ...maybe a HW1 and it's 384k by now, but I doubt a 700K HW2 |
If you update the HW1 to AMS 2.0x, then you get 700Kb of archive. ;)
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on November 30, 2007, 05:27:00 pm
Post by: Fryedsoft on November 30, 2007, 05:55:00 pm
Carry a First gen Ti-92 around, then tell me how big the 89ti is :P
Basicially get two 89Ti's, tape them together and you got the weight. and it's about the size of 1 1/3 89ti's lengthwise and about twice as thick. Then try whipping it out in class and watch as the entire class stares at you in awe! :)
Post by: Ranman on November 30, 2007, 06:23:00 pm
| QUOTE (DJ Omnimaga @ 30 Nov, 2007, 23:27) |
| you can update the hardwave itself? Cuz iirc you couldn't install any AMS higher than 1.xx on HW1 and any AMS lower than 1.xx on HW2? o.o |
You cannot update the hardware. But, by updating the AMS, you can reap more benefits from your hardware -- such as access to more archive.
HW1 can have any AMS from v1.00 upto v2.09.
AMS v1.xx did not have the assembly program executable size limitation of 8Kb nor 24Kb. You were only limited by the general file size limitation of 64Kb. However, upgrading a HW1 from AMS 1.xx to AMS 2.xx freed up a significant amount of archive space.
HW1 has the best LCD controller. The LCD controller uses main memory for video memory. So, if you draw to the LCD buffer it is displayed immediately. The LCD controller could essentially use any memory as the LCD dispaly buffer (as long as a few rules are followed) -- just simply malloc some memory and change the LCD buffer pointer. This makes grayscale very simple on HW1.
With HW2, HW3, & HW4, the LCD controller has its own video memory. So, the LCD video buffer must be copied from main memory to the LCD controller's video memory. Unfortunately, this is the job of the CPU. So, to achieve grayscale on these hardware versions, you must manually copy each LCD buffer plane to the LCD memory -- there goes the benefit of the extra 2MHz of CPU speed.
Post by: Ranman on November 30, 2007, 06:26:00 pm
| QUOTE (Fryedsoft @ 30 Nov, 2007, 23:55) |
| HW1 will run AMS 2.09. It will also say it can access 700+KB memory. however you'll find that once you hit 384K you cant fill it up anymore. |
You are partially correct... The extra archive space is usable, but it is limited to Apps.
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on November 30, 2007, 06:36:00 pm