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Re: TI's response to lack of nspire-basic programming
« Reply #90 on: August 21, 2010, 12:39:59 pm »
I think  they might be doing what apple did - bring out the iphone, then wait till everyone bought it about 2 times then bring out the one that everyone wants so they can just buy it again.
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Re: TI's response to lack of nspire-basic programming
« Reply #91 on: August 21, 2010, 12:40:13 pm »
Well, even if getkey is added, I doubt it will do much for Nspire BASIC programs.  There are still no drawing routines, which would make game programming kinda hard, and there are already the geometry features for drawing circles/squares and such, so there is not a need at all to add them, except for programming.


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Re: TI's response to lack of nspire-basic programming
« Reply #92 on: August 21, 2010, 12:45:08 pm »
Yeah I wish they also added Pt-On/Off and the like. In its current form the language would still be limited even with the addition of getkey.

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Re: TI's response to lack of nspire-basic programming
« Reply #93 on: August 22, 2010, 04:59:50 pm »
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Thank you for your reply.

With the release of the TI-Nspire family handheld, the main goal was to develop new technology so the programming development of the handheld was limited. With the release of OS 1.7 and 2.0, some programming features were added but again, the main focus was updating the existing applications (Calculator, Graphs, Lists and Spreadsheet, etc).

In my opinion, it seems as if the programming development of the handheld has taken a "backseat". With that said, I will forward this e-mail to the TI-Nspire family developers as a suggestion for future operating system updates and to let them know that there are customers out there looking for more programming functionality.

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Re: TI's response to lack of nspire-basic programming
« Reply #94 on: August 22, 2010, 05:03:39 pm »
Yeah I still wonder why it wasn't added initially in the first place. Normally when you release something you finish it then add a few minor stuff later. It's like if Starcraft II came out with the entire Campaing disabled.

That said, if TI is open to suggestions, be warned they will probably take suggestions by one or two people into account, but rather take the ones by several people into account.

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Re: TI's response to lack of nspire-basic programming
« Reply #95 on: August 22, 2010, 05:04:46 pm »
and that means teacher's.. right?
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Re: TI's response to lack of nspire-basic programming
« Reply #96 on: August 22, 2010, 05:12:20 pm »
more students that doesn't care about calc games plus the teachers/schools, or TI-Nspire google group.

Also another thing I wish is if we could setup our BASIC programs full screen. This is something I hated of 68K basic programming.

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Re: TI's response to lack of nspire-basic programming
« Reply #97 on: August 22, 2010, 05:42:24 pm »
In the e-mail I got from TI today (regarding the 84+ keypad w/ the Nspire CAS), TI said that the "educational market" is a great force in determining what they add to their products.  I am sure they will consult teachers before they think of adding more programming capabilities. :(


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Re: TI's response to lack of nspire-basic programming
« Reply #98 on: August 22, 2010, 08:31:37 pm »
I'm not even sure if the majority of America's educators know what the purpose of getKey is...
I seriously doubt it will be added if the "educational market" is to be consulted. :(
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Re: TI's response to lack of nspire-basic programming
« Reply #99 on: August 22, 2010, 08:40:32 pm »
haha yeah. I also asked why native assembly isn't supported.. again i wanted to see this for myself... and if they would also suggest a ti-89 keypad
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Re: TI's response to lack of nspire-basic programming
« Reply #100 on: August 23, 2010, 12:43:49 am »
Mk.

Well let's not spam them either, though. Remember what happened to UTI 2005 contest. Ticalc got angry at the flood of feature requests they got about it.

EDIT: Btw would it be possible to not use CODE tags for emails and quoted messages? It's very hard to read due to lack of word-wrap.
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Re: TI's response to lack of nspire-basic programming
« Reply #101 on: August 23, 2010, 08:26:10 am »
What I really want to know from TI Cares is the docs for the USB ports.  I fired off a suggestion and still haven't gotten a response.

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Re: TI's response to lack of nspire-basic programming
« Reply #102 on: August 23, 2010, 09:19:58 am »
Just Nspire or 84+(SE) too? Both would be very nice to have, and the latter more so, at least IMO.
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Re: TI's response to lack of nspire-basic programming
« Reply #103 on: August 23, 2010, 04:51:24 pm »
I don't know about the Nspire, but I asked about the 84+ (SE).  This is what I sent:
Hello,
I am an assembly developer for the TI-84+ (SE), and had a few questions about some ports. I've noticed there is a lack of documentation for ports 4C and above, namely, the USB ports. If you have time, would you please send me this documentation?
Thank you in advance,
Drew DeVault

This is the reply:
Drew,

Thank you for contacting Texas Instruments.

I will be more than happy to provide you with information for programming on the TI-84 Plus graphing calculator.

The only available documentation that we have is available from the Software Development Kit (SDK). This documentation may be downloaded from the link below under the Guidebook section of the web page.

http://education.ti.com/educationportal/downloadcenter/SoftwareDetail.do?website=US&appId=177

Another resource you can use to find answers to your questions, example calculations and other information is our Knowledge Base. The Knowledge Base is accessible to you 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

http://support.education.ti.com

I hope that you find this information helpful. If you have further questions or comments, please feel free to send me an email.

Warmest Regards,

César López

This is what I just sent back:
Hi César,
I appreciate the offer, and I have checked out the documentation.  However, I still haven’t been able to find documentation on these particular ports.  There isn't any documentation available outside of the SDK?

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Re: TI's response to lack of nspire-basic programming
« Reply #104 on: August 23, 2010, 04:53:39 pm »
Is it me or are they less experienced with their old z80 line than the Nspire? x.x