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Re: TI'S Response to our outrage
« Reply #45 on: July 21, 2010, 06:32:51 pm »
God, DJ, your right. Damn, THERE ARE SPYS EVERYWHERE, TRUST NO ONE.


I cant beleive that ti would go that far :/ I guess they really dont want asm, I wonder why.
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Re: TI'S Response to our outrage
« Reply #46 on: July 21, 2010, 06:36:05 pm »
There aren't any confirmed spies, we are just being careful.
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Re: TI'S Response to our outrage
« Reply #47 on: July 21, 2010, 06:39:31 pm »
I am sure if any spies were confermed, they would be booted XD
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Re: TI'S Response to our outrage
« Reply #48 on: July 21, 2010, 06:41:28 pm »
Quote from: apcalc on July 21, 2010, 06:29:26 pm
Quote from: qazz42 on July 21, 2010, 06:27:59 pm
But lets not forget that much of this needs to be done by asm, for which we need ndless2, so that should be the main priority

Maybe not.  If critor was able to dump the diags software without any version of Ndless on a touchpad Nspire, who knows what is possible...


I got a frightening bug with the 2.00 diagnostic software on the TouchPad. It has filled some part of the memory with lots of 0xFF bytes... :p

It seems TI has done a very crappy job with the 1st release of the diagnostic software for the TouchPad (2.00).
It isn't even handling the TouchPad keypad correcly... If you don't have a ClickPad by hand, navigating though the diagnostic menus is difficult.
It is even telling me my battery is faulty.... It seems to check the voltage with a 4Volts value, when the nominal voltage of the battery is 3.7Volts.

No surprise the software did bug...
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Re: TI'S Response to our outrage
« Reply #49 on: July 21, 2010, 07:10:20 pm »
Didn't Mic Nspire also went kaputt when it had OS 2.0 on it?
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Re: TI'S Response to our outrage
« Reply #50 on: July 21, 2010, 07:28:53 pm »
Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on July 21, 2010, 07:10:20 pm
Didn't Mic Nspire also went kaputt when it had OS 2.0 on it?

Yes, but that was not related to the diagnostic mode.
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Re: TI'S Response to our outrage
« Reply #51 on: July 21, 2010, 07:44:16 pm »
Yeah I know. Wasn't it due to USB?
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Re: TI'S Response to our outrage
« Reply #52 on: July 21, 2010, 07:44:51 pm »
I think, I dont remember it too much
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Re: TI'S Response to our outrage
« Reply #53 on: July 21, 2010, 09:57:29 pm »
let's assume that ti makes another update tomarow... would someone be able to rip apart the os and find out what allows it to be upgraded.  then someone could rip apart the old os and reprogram it to say, Why yes i am a good update.

Edit: i mean make a patch for the os as altering the os and releasing it would violate laws.
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Re: TI'S Response to our outrage
« Reply #54 on: July 21, 2010, 10:00:13 pm »
We couldn't really apply the patches though, since we'd already have to have access to the keys to send any modified OS of ours. :(
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Re: TI'S Response to our outrage
« Reply #55 on: July 21, 2010, 10:02:11 pm »
ohhh ok, it was the ti-84's  that was cracked ( i forgot )
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Re: TI'S Response to our outrage
« Reply #56 on: July 21, 2010, 10:29:14 pm »
Like me,


I actually plan to learn some C in order to program for teh nspire. Can I have a good complier that DOESNT require Cmd preferrably
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Re: TI'S Response to our outrage
« Reply #57 on: July 21, 2010, 10:36:04 pm »
What platform are you on?
Compiling from the command line is as simple as running 'make' in the source directory, so there's really little reason why the use of the command line should be an obstacle.
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Re: TI'S Response to our outrage
« Reply #58 on: July 21, 2010, 11:01:58 pm »
Bwang, some people hate having going through the whole process of typing commands to navigate through directories. Windows users are used to GUIs. We just click the exe that's it. When I see a program that uses cmd prompt, I usually don't bother. This isn't to mention some people may forget the cmd line syntax.

If using cmd line is easier or more suitable than GUIs for you, it doesn't mean it is for everyone.

Of course if it's the only option, then I guess qazz have no choice. But even then it's better if there are pre-made batch files. Some people claims writing them is easy but when someone wants to use a software, he doesn't necessarly want to have to learn the whole batch script language...

As an example, remember how I never figured out how to get Goplat's emulator to work at all, same for the GUI Levak did
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Re: TI'S Response to our outrage
« Reply #59 on: July 22, 2010, 01:09:16 am »
Sorry if I sounded rude in my previous post. I didn't mean to :(
There's probably some way to get it set up with Eclipse or a similar IDE, but imo its not worth the time. Either way, I believe you are going to need some familiarity with the command-line GNU development tools to code for the Nspire.
But as I've said, its not hard.  apcalc wrote an excellent tutorial here if you're getting started.
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