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Re: TI invites us back, but should we go to the dark side?
« Reply #15 on: May 26, 2011, 02:17:34 pm »
Quote from: JosJuice on May 26, 2011, 02:08:03 pm
Something I'm wondering about is why they chose to add a 0D compression requirement in 3.0.2, blocking all of our Lua programs, but then give us a method to create 0D-compressed files so that we can use Lua again...

Because they had no idea we'd find out about Lua and even hate them for blocking it and C and Asm.
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Re: TI invites us back, but should we go to the dark side?
« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2011, 02:19:43 pm »
Quote from: Scout on May 26, 2011, 02:17:34 pm
Quote from: JosJuice on May 26, 2011, 02:08:03 pm
Something I'm wondering about is why they chose to add a 0D compression requirement in 3.0.2, blocking all of our Lua programs, but then give us a method to create 0D-compressed files so that we can use Lua again...

Because they had no idea we'd find out about Lua and even hate them for blocking it and C and Asm.
We found out about Lua before TI even realized that 3.0.1 was glitchy. If we didn't know about how we accessed Lua, how could they remove our method of accessing Lua?
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Re: TI invites us back, but should we go to the dark side?
« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2011, 02:20:38 pm »
* BrownyTCat wants a copy of the SDK now.
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Re: TI invites us back, but should we go to the dark side?
« Reply #18 on: May 26, 2011, 02:58:01 pm »
Maybe they just got sick of always blocking stuff and just said "Oh, what the hell..".
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Re: TI invites us back, but should we go to the dark side?
« Reply #19 on: May 26, 2011, 03:12:32 pm »
Will LUA programs made for System 3.0.2 run on 3.0.1?
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Re: TI invites us back, but should we go to the dark side?
« Reply #20 on: May 26, 2011, 03:13:27 pm »
Quote from: GB on May 26, 2011, 03:12:32 pm
Will LUA programs made for System 3.0.2 run on 3.0.1?
Yes.
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Re: TI invites us back, but should we go to the dark side?
« Reply #21 on: May 26, 2011, 03:15:37 pm »
That's good. I have a copy of 3.0.1 and I'll just TNOC it.
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Re: TI invites us back, but should we go to the dark side?
« Reply #22 on: May 26, 2011, 03:32:11 pm »
Quote from: JosJuice on May 26, 2011, 02:08:03 pm
Something I'm wondering about is why they chose to add a 0D compression requirement in 3.0.2, blocking all of our Lua programs, but then give us a method to create 0D-compressed files so that we can use Lua again...

They pulled an Obama-nomics stunt and did it just so they could seem in more control while in reality they just wasted more money.  However, since it's not the country I love but rather the monopoly I hate, I can laugh at them for doing so :)
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Re: TI invites us back, but should we go to the dark side?
« Reply #23 on: May 26, 2011, 05:46:27 pm »
Exactly Ashbad
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Re: TI invites us back, but should we go to the dark side?
« Reply #24 on: May 26, 2011, 06:46:37 pm »
We should get an interview with someone in the corporate office and ask why they are doing this.
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Re: TI invites us back, but should we go to the dark side?
« Reply #25 on: May 26, 2011, 06:46:57 pm »
Where could I get SDK for making compressed 3.0.2 programs?
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Re: TI invites us back, but should we go to the dark side?
« Reply #26 on: May 26, 2011, 06:50:46 pm »
Its on TI-BANK I believe
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Re: TI invites us back, but should we go to the dark side?
« Reply #27 on: May 26, 2011, 08:10:46 pm »
Quote from: JosJuice on May 26, 2011, 02:08:03 pm
Something I'm wondering about is why they chose to add a 0D compression requirement in 3.0.2, blocking all of our Lua programs, but then give us a method to create 0D-compressed files so that we can use Lua again...
It's not because they're to 3rd party Lua (Well for now at least) it's because they want to stay in control. By adding the compression step it is easier for them to manage how much development we do. If teachers start complaining about Lua, then TI might require a license to develop programs which they could do easily. Honestly the worst-case scenario is if we get ndless through Lua. If that happens TI will drop it for sure.
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Re: TI invites us back, but should we go to the dark side?
« Reply #28 on: May 26, 2011, 08:16:53 pm »
Lua seems our best bet for ndless right now though so we might soon see some problems
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Re: TI invites us back, but should we go to the dark side?
« Reply #29 on: May 26, 2011, 10:30:14 pm »
Quote from: ruler501 on May 26, 2011, 08:16:53 pm
Lua seems our best bet for ndless right now though so we might soon see some problems

Can it hurt to go along with ti on this and buy their product for lua programing?  Yes it sure can.  The investment of time and money is all lost when they clamp down again.  And I can't believe for a second that ti has all of a sudden become a bunch of nice guys that want to help us create games.  As soon as their teacher clients screem NO!  NO GAMES!  Ti will screw us again.  Mean while the Casio Prizm has provided programing opportunities that the nspire still does not provide.  I think that it is clear that the Prizm, and not the nspire, is the platform in our future.   
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