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Re: ti-nspire google group
« Reply #45 on: August 03, 2010, 09:09:43 pm »
Terrible. I wonder if the founders of that group conspire with TI's PR group.
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Re: ti-nspire google group
« Reply #46 on: August 03, 2010, 09:34:12 pm »
I was kicked because of the "Wade made fun of Nelson's math prgms" Idea....



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Re: ti-nspire google group
« Reply #47 on: August 04, 2010, 08:21:24 am »
Ah, so "Alec" was you...
I've been discussing privately with Wayne as well. I pointed him to the list of bugs in TI's software as well. The only claim of wrong results that he made, to both qazz42 and me, is invalid: MathTools' zeta(1-i) gives the same result (rounded at nine digits after the comma) as Wolfram Alpha backed by Mathematica (Alpha used by Levak on TI-Bank, Mathtools by myself). The documentation is incorrect, but the program works. I pointed him to TIEmu and TIFS (should he decide not to trust the third-party emulator, he can always use the wimpy emulator built in TIFS).

Don't be hard on him (especially, don't attack him for his example of bug being incorrect - I already wrote him the output of the program on the calculator, though without any comment on the validity of it, since I didn't think of checking with Wolfram Alpha _before_ sending the mail), we'll see whether he releases his list of so-called bugs.
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> I can give you many other examples.
Yes, please do. It will help third-party programs to become better, and it will make you known, in the larger community, as someone who, after complaining, proceeds to help improving programs ;)
Needless to say, I'd post the list publicly if you sent me it, so that we can, hopefully, collectively tackle it.
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Re: ti-nspire google group
« Reply #48 on: August 04, 2010, 09:20:05 am »
hmm, interesting, (unfortunetly I dont know what prgm your talking about :D )


Still, just taking one example of a develpoer's fail, does not mean all 3rd party programs are total shit, in fact, most of them are better than the stuff TI comes with


Hmm

1 big app that does inaccurate quadratics (made by ti)?

or

2 Little program that does quadratics fine, but no extra graphics?
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Re: ti-nspire google group
« Reply #49 on: August 04, 2010, 10:39:48 am »
Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on July 27, 2010, 06:12:07 pm
Quote from: fb39ca4 on July 27, 2010, 02:50:55 pm
since they're teachers, they don't want students playing games in class.
That said, not every teacher is against calc game dev, though. While Critor and Mic would not appreciate that their students play games instead of doing their school work, taking notes and listening in class, they are not against calc games in any way.
<late>I know one math teacher who did much to support calculator games, Dan E one of the coders for Block Dude and MOS is now a math teacher, imagine that.</late>
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Re: ti-nspire google group
« Reply #50 on: August 04, 2010, 10:49:03 am »
Quote from: JonimusPrime on August 04, 2010, 10:39:48 am
Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on July 27, 2010, 06:12:07 pm
Quote from: fb39ca4 on July 27, 2010, 02:50:55 pm
since they're teachers, they don't want students playing games in class.
That said, not every teacher is against calc game dev, though. While Critor and Mic would not appreciate that their students play games instead of doing their school work, taking notes and listening in class, they are not against calc games in any way.
<late>I know one math teacher who did much to support calculator games, Dan E one of the coders for Block Dude and MOS is now a math teacher, imagine that.</late>
No way, really? ;D
That's pretty cool. :)

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> I can give you many other examples.
Yes, please do. It will help third-party programs to become better, and it will make you known, in the larger community, as someone who, after complaining, proceeds to help improving programs ;)
Needless to say, I'd post the list publicly if you sent me it, so that we can, hopefully, collectively tackle it.
Did you send this to him?  I'd like for the community to get the list so people can fix the problems. :)
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Re: ti-nspire google group
« Reply #51 on: August 04, 2010, 12:42:34 pm »
Yes, I quoted what I sent to him.
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Re: ti-nspire google group
« Reply #52 on: August 08, 2010, 04:57:55 pm »
Wow Qazz they kicked you out of the group? I guess they sure want to brainwash people there in thinking 3rd party dev suck x.x
Quote from: JonimusPrime on August 04, 2010, 10:39:48 am
Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on July 27, 2010, 06:12:07 pm
Quote from: fb39ca4 on July 27, 2010, 02:50:55 pm
since they're teachers, they don't want students playing games in class.
That said, not every teacher is against calc game dev, though. While Critor and Mic would not appreciate that their students play games instead of doing their school work, taking notes and listening in class, they are not against calc games in any way.
<late>I know one math teacher who did much to support calculator games, Dan E one of the coders for Block Dude and MOS is now a math teacher, imagine that.</late>
Yeah I remember him a lot ^^
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Re: ti-nspire google group
« Reply #53 on: August 09, 2010, 10:34:06 am »
I don't think that they really want to brainwash people there, otherwise multiple other persons would have been kicked.
I think that the tone of one of qazz's posts (the one where he replied to Wayne Pace's overbroad generalization) probably wasn't what they're expecting on the group, and that they decided to kick him out after that.
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Re: ti-nspire google group
« Reply #54 on: August 09, 2010, 10:56:05 am »
lol someone should go over there and announce a fake ti-nspire asm contest winner gets $100 (jk jk)
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Re: ti-nspire google group
« Reply #55 on: August 09, 2010, 12:13:59 pm »
lol that would be epic
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Re: ti-nspire google group
« Reply #56 on: August 09, 2010, 12:51:11 pm »
I don't understand how they think third party software is worse than TI's coding.  OS 2.53 is very buggy.
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Re: ti-nspire google group
« Reply #57 on: August 09, 2010, 01:34:09 pm »
Agreed. Open spurce software is less buggy because more people have the opportunity to catch it and fix it.
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Re: ti-nspire google group
« Reply #58 on: August 09, 2010, 01:42:32 pm »
Also, some of the members of the community are probably as good at coding as the people at TI.
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Re: ti-nspire google group
« Reply #59 on: August 09, 2010, 01:49:51 pm »
Or better.
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