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What's your favorite Programming Method?
« on: April 12, 2010, 11:42:24 pm »
I was just wondering what everyone likes using. For those who don't know what it is, BBC Basic is a Real BASIC implementation on-calc. You can find it at http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/416/41608.html on ticalc.org. It really works rather well, but you should be familiar with BASIC (not TI-BASIC) before you jump in, as it is quite different.

Yes, I know that some are just the same idea for different calcs. That's why I gave multiple Votes!

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Re: What's your favorite Programming Method?
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2010, 11:55:36 pm »
BBC Basic seemed pretty nice, but unless you don't mind the inline programming editor or having to do your stuff on the PC if you don't like the on calc editor, it isn't as practical. I heard the language works pretty well and is not that hard to learn, though.

I personally tried ASM, learned 3 times, but with no luck, so I gave up on it. Same for C, except only tried twice. ASM can do a lot more than any other language, though. Just what Calc84maniac pull off tells enough.

I myself have programmed using TI-83 Plus BASIC since July 4th 2001 and have stuck with it ever since, except starting in 2003 I started using ASM libs more and more, the most notable one being xLIB.

And now there's Axe Parser, which I am trying to get motivation for to make something with it or practice more. I like Axe because many commands are the same (or close) as TI-83 Plus BASIC, so the learning curve is almost nonexistent when you start up, providing you know some TI-BASIC. And I like how it allows you to mess with stuff like pointers and memory in a easier to understand syntax. I think this language has a big future, especially with the on calc programmability. For BBC Basic, it will most likely have a big future too if a more user-friendly editor comes out as well as a way to not have to carry the massive APP with the games to run them (maybe a smaller shell to run them?)

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Re: What's your favorite Programming Method?
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2010, 12:08:09 am »
I voted for TI-Basic, and Celtic III. Although I never used Celtic III, I use xLib and many other asm libraries.
I tried learning ASM, C++, and BBC Basic few times, but never really got into it. Axe, I will try sometime in near future, but I just want to finish all the projects that I have right now first.


Spoiler For funny life mathematics:
1. ROMANCE MATHEMATICS
Smart man + smart woman = romance
Smart man + dumb woman = affair
Dumb man + smart woman = marriage
Dumb man + dumb woman = pregnancy
2. OFFICE ARITHMETIC
Smart boss + smart employee = profit
Smart boss + dumb employee = production
Dumb boss + smart employee = promotion
Dumb boss + dumb employee = overtime
3. SHOPPING MATH
A man will pay $2 for a $1 item he needs.
A woman will pay $1 for a $2 item that she doesn't need.
4. GENERAL EQUATIONS & STATISTICS
A woman worries about the future until she gets a husband.
A man never worries about the future until he gets a wife.
A successful man is one who makes more money than his wife can spend.
A successful woman is one who can find such a man.
5. HAPPINESS
To be happy with a man, you must understand him a lot and love him a little.
To be happy with a woman, you must love her a lot and not try to understand her at all.
6. LONGEVITY
Married men live longer than single men do, but married men are a lot more willing to die.
7. PROPENSITY TO CHANGE
A woman marries a man expecting he will change, but he doesn't.
A man marries a woman expecting that she won't change, and she does.
8. DISCUSSION TECHNIQUE
A woman has the last word in any argument.
Anything a man says after that is the beginning of a new argument.

Girls = Time * Money (Girls are a combination of time and money)
Time = Money (Time is money)
Girls = Money squared (So, girls are money squared)
Money = sqrt(Evil) (Money is also the root of all evil)
Girls = sqrt(Evil) squared (So, girls are the root of all evil squared)
Girls = Evil (Thus, girls are evil)
*Girls=Evil credit goes to Compynerd255*

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Re: What's your favorite Programming Method?
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2010, 12:20:32 am »
Should I include xLIB with Celtic III and add a 7th option in the poll for libs+BASIC other than xLIB/Celtic? Some people actually don't like to use Celtic III in their games but still use other ASM libraries with BASIC (like CODEX). Since most of my programming activity was before both xLIB/C3 came out, I used different libs a lot.
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Re: What's your favorite Programming Method?
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2010, 07:08:19 am »
When I started out, pure BASIC was where it was at.
Then, my skill evolved into the magical xLib.
Then, Celtic III.
Finally, Axe Parser.
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Re: What's your favorite Programming Method?
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2010, 11:36:45 am »
There. I added xLib and Other Libs to the list.

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Re: What's your favorite Programming Method?
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2010, 11:42:17 am »
Mhmm personally I would have merged Celtic III with xLIB since Celtic III is actually xLIB but with more features. It even runs xLIB games 99% perfectly with the addition of working fine on OS 2.53MP or higher, unlike xLIB.

Oh well I voted for BASIC, other libs, xLIB, Celtic III and Axe. My latest project used BASIC+other libs, altough only a 184 bytes one to copy archived programs to RAM files. It was Illusiat 13, altough I didn't finish it yet.

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Re: What's your favorite Programming Method?
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2010, 01:14:44 pm »
how do you change what you vote?


Spoiler For funny life mathematics:
1. ROMANCE MATHEMATICS
Smart man + smart woman = romance
Smart man + dumb woman = affair
Dumb man + smart woman = marriage
Dumb man + dumb woman = pregnancy
2. OFFICE ARITHMETIC
Smart boss + smart employee = profit
Smart boss + dumb employee = production
Dumb boss + smart employee = promotion
Dumb boss + dumb employee = overtime
3. SHOPPING MATH
A man will pay $2 for a $1 item he needs.
A woman will pay $1 for a $2 item that she doesn't need.
4. GENERAL EQUATIONS & STATISTICS
A woman worries about the future until she gets a husband.
A man never worries about the future until he gets a wife.
A successful man is one who makes more money than his wife can spend.
A successful woman is one who can find such a man.
5. HAPPINESS
To be happy with a man, you must understand him a lot and love him a little.
To be happy with a woman, you must love her a lot and not try to understand her at all.
6. LONGEVITY
Married men live longer than single men do, but married men are a lot more willing to die.
7. PROPENSITY TO CHANGE
A woman marries a man expecting he will change, but he doesn't.
A man marries a woman expecting that she won't change, and she does.
8. DISCUSSION TECHNIQUE
A woman has the last word in any argument.
Anything a man says after that is the beginning of a new argument.

Girls = Time * Money (Girls are a combination of time and money)
Time = Money (Time is money)
Girls = Money squared (So, girls are money squared)
Money = sqrt(Evil) (Money is also the root of all evil)
Girls = sqrt(Evil) squared (So, girls are the root of all evil squared)
Girls = Evil (Thus, girls are evil)
*Girls=Evil credit goes to Compynerd255*

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Re: What's your favorite Programming Method?
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2010, 03:02:29 pm »
There, I set it to where users can change their vote. Just look at the poll. (Click 'Remove Vote')
« Last Edit: April 13, 2010, 03:03:30 pm by {AP} »

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Re: What's your favorite Programming Method?
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2010, 04:30:49 pm »
Hehe I actually temporary changed it so we can change our votes earlier to change mine, then set it back to no change, but I was not sure if Will had a problem with that, which is why I changed it back :P

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Re: What's your favorite Programming Method?
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2010, 04:36:32 pm »
I personally will program in what ever language is handed to me.  I tend to like C++ though because of speed and the ability to create types that behave as if they were part of the language.

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Re: What's your favorite Programming Method?
« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2010, 04:41:39 pm »
a C language for z80 calcs that produces relatively good code, even if not much smaller than BASIC) would have been nice, even if I wouldn't use it, because a lot of people program C or C++ for the computer, programmed 68K C and would like to do so on z80 calcs. But the current C compiler for z80 calcs, z88dk, apparently produces horrible and inneficient code. At least now we got Axe Parser but C could be another option for programmers with computer programming experience.

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Re: What's your favorite Programming Method?
« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2010, 11:35:10 am »
I like c++ in general Because of the way it works you can use it to code on almost anything with very little extra learning

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Re: What's your favorite Programming Method?
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2010, 02:15:08 pm »
I'm trying to learn C# on my own (I burrowed the book from library last saturday, didn't start on it yet).
So far, the only programming language I know is TI BASIC :P
When Hot Dog writes all the lessons, I hope to be able to program in ASM though ^^


Spoiler For funny life mathematics:
1. ROMANCE MATHEMATICS
Smart man + smart woman = romance
Smart man + dumb woman = affair
Dumb man + smart woman = marriage
Dumb man + dumb woman = pregnancy
2. OFFICE ARITHMETIC
Smart boss + smart employee = profit
Smart boss + dumb employee = production
Dumb boss + smart employee = promotion
Dumb boss + dumb employee = overtime
3. SHOPPING MATH
A man will pay $2 for a $1 item he needs.
A woman will pay $1 for a $2 item that she doesn't need.
4. GENERAL EQUATIONS & STATISTICS
A woman worries about the future until she gets a husband.
A man never worries about the future until he gets a wife.
A successful man is one who makes more money than his wife can spend.
A successful woman is one who can find such a man.
5. HAPPINESS
To be happy with a man, you must understand him a lot and love him a little.
To be happy with a woman, you must love her a lot and not try to understand her at all.
6. LONGEVITY
Married men live longer than single men do, but married men are a lot more willing to die.
7. PROPENSITY TO CHANGE
A woman marries a man expecting he will change, but he doesn't.
A man marries a woman expecting that she won't change, and she does.
8. DISCUSSION TECHNIQUE
A woman has the last word in any argument.
Anything a man says after that is the beginning of a new argument.

Girls = Time * Money (Girls are a combination of time and money)
Time = Money (Time is money)
Girls = Money squared (So, girls are money squared)
Money = sqrt(Evil) (Money is also the root of all evil)
Girls = sqrt(Evil) squared (So, girls are the root of all evil squared)
Girls = Evil (Thus, girls are evil)
*Girls=Evil credit goes to Compynerd255*

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Re: What's your favorite Programming Method?
« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2010, 02:20:40 pm »
As long as you don't quit TLM/Factory D: