Author Topic: Cool looking graphing calculator (Read 13560 times)

kucalc · « **on:** March 25, 2007, 05:00:00 am »

So here it is, the fastest graphing calculator with high display contrast and Natural Textbook Display: fx-9860G Slim

Here's the link: http://www.casio.com/news/content/DADB5369-54C2-4E44-B585-E9EFF0EA3611/

Here's the pics of the new model:
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How powerful the fx-9860 speed is compared to other calculators (It's even faster than the HP-50G, currently the fastest graphing calculator): http://www.hpmuseum.org/cgi-sys/cgiwrap/hpmuseum/articles.cgi?read=700

For those wandering, the LCD screen actually does look that crisp and clear. I have the fx-9860G though, not the fx-9860G Slim, but the LCD's should be the same.

This Slim version should be awesome now that it's lightweight and can probably fit in your pocket and you can bring it everywhere with you. The fx-9860G is already awesome, but this is even better!

Fallen Ghost · « **Reply #1 on:** March 25, 2007, 05:14:00 am »

Looking great, but certainly not very practical, as the reach of buttons is not so easy.

Delnar_Ersike · « **Reply #2 on:** March 25, 2007, 05:32:00 am »

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Looking great, but certainly not very practical, as the reach of buttons is not so easy.

Maybe that's because we are all used to the arrow keys in the top right and the 2nd/Alpha keys in the top left.

I have some questions about the model:
1) How big is the pixel display?
2) How fast is the processor?
3) How easy is it to learn BASIC and/or Assembly for it?
4) How much memory does it have (RAM and Flash)?
5) How much is it's retail price?

graywolf · « **Reply #3 on:** March 25, 2007, 05:44:00 am »

I have seen many Casio calculators, including this one, and I don?t like them for aesthetic reasons (personally). My favorite one would be the ClassPad 300+ if it wasn?t for the over reliance on the stylus.

kucalc · « **Reply #4 on:** March 25, 2007, 05:53:00 am »

If you think that it's too uncomfortable, you can get the fx-9860SD which is bigger but has a SD card slot.

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1) How big is the pixel display?

The pixel display is 128x64 pixels. 24.0(H) x 92.5(W) x 184.5(D) mm

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2) How fast is the processor?

The fx-9860 uses a SuperH processor clocked at around 40MHz initially. Using my CPUSPEED hack utility takes it to 80MHz. The CPU's max speed is 160MHz and can efficiently execute 173MIPS.

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3) How easy is it to learn BASIC and/or Assembly for it?

BASIC is easy. As for programming in C/C++/ASM, you can use the fx-9860 SDK. The SDK contains a emulator so you don't have to keep transferring programs back and forth to your calculator. Here's a screenshot of the SDK: user posted image

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4) How much memory does it have (RAM and Flash)?

It has 1.5MB of Flash memory and probably 64KB of RAM (or maybe 512KB). However, I'm working on a way to expand the 1.5MB to 2.0MB flash. About 500KB is just blank code used up by the OS.

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5) How much is it's retail price?

It comes out in June, and will be $99.

Also it has a backlight display making it good for when you are in dark places. It also has a HELP button for easy access to help (Don't have to look in the manual anymore).

It also has USB support and this is probably the first pocket graphing calculator.

bfr · « **Reply #5 on:** March 25, 2007, 06:09:00 am »

It seems pretty cool, but there are just a few things I'd like to mention:

- By the screenshot of it, it's home screen, or whatever it is called, doesn't look very professional or as good as the TI-89 Titanium's / Voyage 200's

- It doesn't have the operation keys (+, -, *, /) in the traditional layout

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kucalc: You know how to program for this? Awesome!

kucalc · « **Reply #6 on:** March 25, 2007, 06:20:00 am »

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- By the screenshot of it, it's home screen, or whatever it is called, doesn't look very professional or as good as the TI-89 Titanium's / Voyage 200's

Well (if we are talking about looks, not technical capabilities), in my opinion it looks sleek, dynamic and high tech. The TI-89 Titanium looks bulky and fat compared to the CASIO fx-9860G Slim.

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- It doesn't have the operation keys (+, -, *, /) in the traditional layout

What do you mean by that? The fx-9860G Slim does have those keys on it's keyboard. Here's a link to a bigger photo of the fx-9860G Slim: http://www.casio.com/resource/images/press/fx-9860gslim_press.jpg

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kucalc: You know how to program for this? Awesome!

Well yes, my programming projects right now are towards the hardware. My projects right now include WAVE-fx (High quality WAVE and maybe MP3 music player for the fx-9860), EPSILON (hardware library for the fx-9860 series) and a USB driver for the fx-9860 series.

There are a couple of games right now for the fx-9860 made using the fx-9860 SDK: http://www.casiocalc.org/?to=fsdisplay.php&cat2disp=FS.FX-9860G.casm#totitle

My hardware hacking projects for the fx-9860: http://www.casiocalc.org/?showtopic=3250

bfr · « **Reply #7 on:** March 25, 2007, 06:29:00 am »

No, I mean the actual operating system's home screen or whatever, not the physical calculator's design.

Also, I know that it has those keys, but they aren't in the traditional layout. Take a look at this calculator, for example: user posted image

Fallen Ghost · « **Reply #8 on:** March 25, 2007, 07:00:00 am »

What I was saying is that I preferred a calculator layout like the TIs more than notepads/92/v200 layouts.

kucalc · « **Reply #9 on:** March 25, 2007, 08:56:00 am »

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Also, I know that it has those keys, but they aren't in the traditional layout.

But isn't CASIO's keyboard layout more efficient? In your traditional layouts, you have to move your hand up and down in a column. Going between multiplication and addition takes more distance than on a CASIO in which the +, *, /, - are grouped into a square allowing greater efficiency of entering equations.

If you don't like portable stuff, here's what the original fx-9860 SD (has a card slot):

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graywolf · « **Reply #10 on:** March 25, 2007, 09:04:00 am »

I have a Casio scientific calculators (they are the best!) and the square fashion is actually pretty good. I have a TI89 and the layout for that isn't a pain either.

bfr · « **Reply #11 on:** March 25, 2007, 10:06:00 am »

I'm not saying that the square layout is necessarily bad, I'm just saying that it is different and might take some getting used to.

Halifax · « **Reply #12 on:** March 25, 2007, 01:34:00 pm »

My thoughts on this:

The TI-OS is better, more planned, and more thought out and crisp than any other operating system for a calc to me(although it may not be optimized) I love the layouts of the 89's and down because they are so easy to navigate. I really don't like the Homescreen/GUI of that calc. It looks too crowded so I think we should stick with whats not broken. TI!

Liazon · « **Reply #13 on:** March 26, 2007, 10:46:00 am »

i just wish it had a higher resolution since it's a faster calc.

necro · « **Reply #14 on:** March 26, 2007, 12:58:00 pm »

aren't those benchmarks scewwed, for intance ti 85/73 both using basic?

Author Topic: Cool looking graphing calculator (Read 13560 times)

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