Post by: Ranman on August 05, 2007, 10:46:00 am
http://www.casio.com/products/Calculators_%26_Dictionaries/Graphing/FX-9860GSlim/
Now that is one stylish calculator! It even has a built-in backlight. %)
Why can't TI make something like that. <_<
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 05, 2007, 10:51:00 am
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Post by: Xphoenix on August 06, 2007, 10:11:00 am
"Replay". Hm.
Backlight's cool, you can finally use your calculator during the night w/o lights. (Unless you've already memorized the key locations, in which case you've already been doing so.)
Post by: Liazon on August 06, 2007, 10:43:00 am
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Post by: bfr on August 06, 2007, 07:46:00 pm
| QUOTE (Xphoenix @ 6 Aug, 2007, 15:11) |
| Backlight's cool, you can finally use your calculator during the night w/o lights. (Unless you've already memorized the key locations, in which case you've already been doing so.) |
Meh, I can probably figure out most of the key locations. It's the sreen that one should be worried about. That's what backlights are typically for anyway. :P
Post by: Xphoenix on August 07, 2007, 08:23:00 am
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Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 07, 2007, 06:32:00 pm
Oh welcome back thestorm btw
Post by: Delnar_Ersike on August 07, 2007, 08:12:00 pm
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| FX-9860GSlim Specifications Memory: Available RAM/Flash ROM: 64KB/1.5MB Number and Constant Memory: Yes Electronic upgradeability: Yes Prior Entry Recall: Yes Display: Interface: Icon Menu Lines x characters: 8 x 21 Screen Size (Pixels): 64 x 128 Color Display: Not Available Natural Display Input: Yes Capture, Clip & Paste Capability: Yes Language Options Available: Yes Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 08, 2007, 01:55:00 am Post by: Delnar_Ersike on August 08, 2007, 05:50:00 am Post by: JonimusPrime on August 08, 2007, 06:53:00 am Post by: Ranman on August 08, 2007, 07:12:00 am Not too shabby! Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 08, 2007, 11:21:00 am Post by: kucalc on August 09, 2007, 04:51:00 am But anyways, it indeed is a nice calc. I do most of the hacking for the fx-9860G series. With my CPUSPEED utility, you can change the internal speed of the CPU from 20MHz(It's been previously thought to be 40MHz) to 80MHz, making the fx-9860 the fastest non-CAS calculator. The CPU's max speed is 160MHz and can efficiently execute 173MIPS (million instructions per second). Calculator benchmarks can be found here: http://www.hpmuseum.org/cgi-sys/cgiwrap/hpmuseum/articles.cgi?read=700 I also head the rev-fx project for the fx-9860 series: http://sourceforge.net/projects/revolution-fx. With rev-fx, the fx-9860 can have 4 colors (black, white, light gray & dark gray). Future releases of rev-fx may allow 8 colors. But now that the fx-9860 has grayscales, I'm thinking about writing MLC for the fx-9860. Post by: Ranman on August 09, 2007, 06:02:00 am
Thanks for the link kukalc. Sorry I missed your link before. It is indeed a very nice looking calc. Is the SDK produced by Casio or by the Casio community? Post by: kucalc on August 09, 2007, 06:31:00 am The Slim wasn't released yet when I started that thread.It depends on which SDK you're talking about: CASIO produces the SDK that you see in the picture in the other thread. rev-fx comes in two different packages: 1. A library for the SDK supplied by CASIO which uses the Renesas compiler toolchain 2. Or a complete standalone SDK based on GCC (community created) Post by: AaroneusTheGreat on August 09, 2007, 06:55:00 am 1. A backlight 2. A folding screen. (that's nifty) 3. Was slimmer. 4. Had a high resolution screen like the V200. 5. Perhaps a faster processor. etc. Maby if we get enough people to do this then they'd take the suggestions seriously. what do you think? :) 
Post by: Ranman on August 09, 2007, 07:04:00 am
Which SDK do you recommend? And... If you prefer the GCC based SDK, can you utilize the Casio emulator? Speaking of emulators... Are there any community emulators? Are they any good? Sorry about so many questions, I have been away from Casio calcs for a long long time -- but I still have my Casio FX-6300G. ;) Post by: kucalc on August 09, 2007, 07:26:00 am rev-fx GCC is still being worked on. We can create and compile programs using GCC, but what we have tools just lying around. We are working on a IDE for the rev-fx GCC to incorporate all the tools together. The CASIO fx-9860 Slim Manager contains a emulator. It's really great, emulates any program written in C/C++ with CASIO's SDK. Some of the hardware hacks though provided by Revolution-FX don't get fully emulated. But you can try it yourself: https://edu.casio.com/freetrial/freetrial_form.php Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 09, 2007, 11:17:00 am welcome back kucalc btw, is there new Casio RPGs in the works atm right now btw? Post by: AaroneusTheGreat on August 09, 2007, 04:36:00 pm Hp's HP 50g isn't too shabby either. I think I'm going to email TI to see if they can't step it up a notch. Who's with me? :)
Post by: necro on August 09, 2007, 04:55:00 pm Post by: AaroneusTheGreat on August 09, 2007, 05:15:00 pm Post by: necro on August 09, 2007, 07:39:00 pm Oh, and as far as flash goes, bought in bulk 1 gig should be less than 10 bucks, and color screens are pretty comon and probably under 10 dollars to. Everything else to would not cost to much, and if you added a cart port then you could make money selling games. Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 10, 2007, 02:17:00 am Post by: necro on August 10, 2007, 06:58:00 am Post by: AaroneusTheGreat on August 10, 2007, 08:57:00 am EDIT: Wow I just looked up the HP50g's specs and it has a 75MHz ARM9 processor. Post by: Liazon on August 10, 2007, 09:18:00 am @necro: if you don't like typing in the name of the program and "()", then you could always use PreOS, which kinda looks like ION/MOS. Post by: AaroneusTheGreat on August 10, 2007, 09:45:00 am  wow the nspire sounds like it really could be a good platform for development, actually. Why did DJ imply that the Nspire would not support gaming? Is there some kind of ASM program protection? because that has not stopped the TI community in the past. It even has a reset button! Wouldnt that come in handy if you crash your calc? Post by: Ranman on August 10, 2007, 09:54:00 am But... That will take some time. It would have been better if TI would have just made it programmable and developer friendly. Post by: AaroneusTheGreat on August 10, 2007, 10:00:00 am Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 10, 2007, 11:18:00 am I agree with the fact that it could be changed easily though. Some just need to write a basic like interpreter to code on the calc, or just a c compiler like TIGCC, and find a way to install the programs made on it and there we go If you think everything I say is false, this means I got misinformed badly by everyone else Post by: AaroneusTheGreat on August 10, 2007, 06:20:00 pm With the operating system running I wonder what the actual program run clock speed is. Imagine, if the processor was just half again as fast as the 89Ti then a quake like 3D engine wouldn't be out of the question any longer. Neither would a full screen 3D engine. What is the MHz speed of the Motorola 68k anyways? surely it's not any where near 75 MHz. Does it support Apps? If so then the problem of development may be solved right there. Just hack an app to run code in the form of a native text document and there you go. Instant games. I hear there's a "document" editor on there. So perhaps there's hope yet. Post by: JonimusPrime on August 11, 2007, 03:07:00 am Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 11, 2007, 11:04:00 am 92 HW1: 10 MHz 92+ HW1: 10 MHz 92+ HW2: 12 MHz v200: 12 MHz v400: 666 MHz 89t (HW3/4): 12 MHz Post by: AaroneusTheGreat on August 11, 2007, 11:41:00 am Hey, I've been trying to find a good HP emulator and ROM for the 50g or 49 series. The ROMs are freely distributable according to HP's license but I can't seem to find any. Can anyone help me out? I want to see what the HP calcs offer. Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 11, 2007, 12:39:00 pm I never got emus to work for hp x.x Idk why, i guess i didnt used the right rom format, but now the site where i found them back in the days (2003) shutted down :( 
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Post by: JonimusPrime on August 12, 2007, 06:57:00 am Post by: AaroneusTheGreat on August 12, 2007, 09:22:00 am EDIT: I downloaded the ClassPad 330 Manager, basically Casio created their own emulator and allows a limited license trial (some features are disabled with the trial, no biggie tho.). It's amazing. 500kb of RAM with 5.4 MB of ROM. Best part about it is that while I was perusing through it's features I looked through the programming catalog, its amazingly close to the Ti-89t 's function set. So with the ClassPad's processor, screen size and memory space it seems like a great platform to program for. Anyone played around with it any? I'd almost like to buy one but so far I don't know what the community is like. I found a website devoted to just the ClassPad. It's www.classpad.org and it seems to have a good selection of games and other resources. Based on this I don't think I can justify a $149 - $179 calculator (the ClassPad 300 + costs $179 direct from casio, imagine the retail. :P ).EDIT2: My GOD! I just graphed the function cos(X)/sin(Y) in 3D mode on the ClassPad emulator and set it to rotate... That has to be the smoothest 3D rotation I have ever seen a calculator do. It is amazing. I'm thinking I may buy one, just for the hell of it. It looks worth buying. Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 12, 2007, 06:20:00 pm Post by: AaroneusTheGreat on August 13, 2007, 09:18:00 am Post by: JonimusPrime on August 14, 2007, 02:03:00 am Post by: AaroneusTheGreat on August 14, 2007, 03:04:00 am Post by: kucalc on August 14, 2007, 09:18:00 am But you should take a look at the speed benchmarks for different calculators: http://www.hpmuseum.org/cgi-sys/cgiwrap/hpmuseum/articles.cgi?read=700 If you go to the bottom of the list for the fastest graphing calculator, it's says: FX-9860G C / SDK / Cross Compiler / Fast Mode x3.6 (20MHz->80MHz). It actually should say 14.74MHz->58.96MHz. But then that means the CASIO fx-9860's SH3 CPU @58.96MHz pwned the HP-50's ARM CPU @75MHz. o.o The ClassPad also uses SH3, but I think it's even clocked at a higher initial speed (29MHz I think...)
Post by: AaroneusTheGreat on August 14, 2007, 03:24:00 pm thats fast! 89 HW2 == ~12 MHz o.o
Post by: Ranman on August 14, 2007, 03:46:00 pm
According to that chart... The Casio FX-9860G (at default speed) is 10 times faster than the TI-89 HW2. And almost 37 times faster when overclocked. :gah:  Did you also notice the Casio FX-9860G (at default speed) is 40 times faster than the Commodore 64. :P Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 14, 2007, 04:29:00 pm 
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