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« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2007, 06:32:00 pm »
I'm sure it can be disabled. The TI-89t has a menu similar to this by default, and I have it disabled on mine.

Oh welcome back thestorm btw

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« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2007, 08:12:00 pm »
Took a closer look at the specs:
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FX-9860GSlim Specifications

Memory:
Available RAM/Flash ROM: 64KB/1.5MB
Number and Constant Memory: Yes
Electronic upgradeability: Yes
Prior Entry Recall: Yes

Display:
Interface: Icon Menu
Lines x characters: 8 x 21
Screen Size (Pixels): 64 x 128
Color Display: Not Available
Natural Display Input: Yes
Capture, Clip & Paste Capability: Yes
Language Options Available: Yes

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« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2007, 01:55:00 am »
not too bad, i wonder how fast is the processor? Maybe that one has faster BASIC execution compared to the other slow casio calcs

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« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2007, 05:50:00 am »
If it's slower than my current TI then I'm not buying it. After all, I bought my T-83+SE on Amazon for only ~$80. Of course, it came without any cables, CD, or manual (I had all those from my previous 83+SE that stopped working because I used the wrong program to update the OS >.< ), but still...

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« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2007, 06:53:00 am »
Well speed in an issue and the fact that the programing will be more dificult and probably have fewer commands than TI-Basic

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« Reply #20 on: August 08, 2007, 07:12:00 am »
According to TrN (who has a standard Casio fx-9860), the CPU is 40MHz and can be overclocked to 80MHz via software. Hmmm... that is over 6 times faster than the TI-89Ti.

Not too shabby!
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« Reply #21 on: August 08, 2007, 11:21:00 am »
wow nice

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« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2007, 04:51:00 am »
Lol, I was talking about this months ago. Don't you guys remember this thread?: http://omnimaga.org/index.php?showtopic=1273

But anyways, it indeed is a nice calc. I do most of the hacking for the fx-9860G series.

With my CPUSPEED utility, you can change the internal speed of the CPU from 20MHz(It's been previously thought to be 40MHz) to 80MHz, making the fx-9860 the fastest non-CAS calculator. The CPU's max speed is 160MHz and can efficiently execute 173MIPS (million instructions per second). Calculator benchmarks can be found here: http://www.hpmuseum.org/cgi-sys/cgiwrap/hpmuseum/articles.cgi?read=700

I also head the rev-fx project for the fx-9860 series: http://sourceforge.net/projects/revolution-fx. With rev-fx, the fx-9860 can have 4 colors (black, white, light gray & dark gray). Future releases of rev-fx may allow 8 colors. But now that the fx-9860 has grayscales, I'm thinking about writing MLC for the fx-9860.

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« Reply #23 on: August 09, 2007, 06:02:00 am »
QuoteBegin-kucalc+9 Aug, 2007, 10:51-->
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Lol, I was talking about this months ago. Don't you guys remember this thread?: http://omnimaga.org/index.php?showtopic=1273

Thanks for the link kukalc. Sorry I missed your link before.

It is indeed a very nice looking calc.

Is the SDK produced by Casio or by the Casio community?
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« Reply #24 on: August 09, 2007, 06:31:00 am »
Nah, it's ok. That thread was months old. ;)wink.gif The Slim wasn't released yet when I started that thread.

It depends on which SDK you're talking about:

CASIO produces the SDK that you see in the picture in the other thread.

rev-fx comes in two different packages:
1. A library for the SDK supplied by CASIO which uses the Renesas compiler toolchain
2. Or a complete standalone SDK based on GCC (community created)

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« Reply #25 on: August 09, 2007, 06:55:00 am »
I have an idea, let's all go to TI's website and write comment/suggestions to them saying that we'd buy a new calc if it had;

1. A backlight
2. A folding screen. (that's nifty)
3. Was slimmer.
4. Had a high resolution screen like the V200.
5. Perhaps a faster processor.

etc.

Maby if we get enough people to do this then they'd take the suggestions seriously.

what do you think? :)smile.gif

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« Reply #26 on: August 09, 2007, 07:04:00 am »
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QUOTE (kucalc @ 9 Aug, 2007, 12:31)
Nah, it's ok. That thread was months old. ;)wink.gif The Slim wasn't released yet when I started that thread.

It depends on which SDK you're talking about:

CASIO produces the SDK that you see in the picture in the other thread.

rev-fx comes in two different packages:
1. A library for the SDK supplied by CASIO which uses the Renesas compiler toolchain
2. Or a complete standalone SDK based on GCC (community created)  

 Which SDK do you recommend? And... If you prefer the GCC based SDK, can you utilize the Casio emulator?

Speaking of emulators... Are there any community emulators? Are they any good?

Sorry about so many questions, I have been away from Casio calcs for a long long time -- but I still have my Casio FX-6300G. ;)wink.gif
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« Reply #27 on: August 09, 2007, 07:26:00 am »
I would recommend using the CASIO's SDK for right now. Complete with IDE, emulator, compiler, etc. The rev-fx library for CASIO's SDK just allows the programmer to do more (grayscales, graphics routines, calc-to-calc communication, music, etc.).

rev-fx GCC is still being worked on. We can create and compile programs using GCC, but what we have tools just lying around. We are working on a IDE for the rev-fx GCC to incorporate all the tools together.

The CASIO fx-9860 Slim Manager contains a emulator. It's really great, emulates any program written in C/C++ with CASIO's SDK. Some of the hardware hacks though provided by Revolution-FX don't get fully emulated.

But you can try it yourself:
https://edu.casio.com/freetrial/freetrial_form.php

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« Reply #28 on: August 09, 2007, 11:17:00 am »
wow didnt noticed the old thread myself either, i guess thats what happen when you lose internet access for 5 months :Ptongue.gif

welcome back kucalc btw, is there new Casio RPGs in the works atm right now btw?

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« Reply #29 on: August 09, 2007, 04:36:00 pm »
http://www.casio.com/products/Calculators_%26_Dictionaries/Graphing/ClassPad300Plus/ one looks really bad a$$. 5.4 MB of flash rom! jeez. Imagine the possibilities. And a touch screen to top it all off. :)smile.gif

Hp's HP 50g isn't too shabby either.

I think I'm going to email TI to see if they can't step it up a notch. Who's with me? :)smile.gif