Post by: tifreak on August 14, 2006, 04:28:00 pm
Also, to integrate this, New games will erase save data, because I don't want this taking 72kb so there can be extra lists and what not to cause more problems... I will probably leave the current systems in effect, since the only times the stats data will be effected is when you battle and win. for battles, I will probably use temp lists for faster action and then store the info back into the main lists when the battle is over.
So basically, things are starting to get fun... :)
*tifreak8x
Post by: Dragon__lance on August 15, 2006, 03:58:00 am
*Dragon_Lance prays that PokemonPurple will fit into 83+'s Memory :D
Post by: tifreak on August 15, 2006, 04:27:00 am
Post by: Dragon__lance on August 15, 2006, 05:11:00 am
Post by: tifreak on August 15, 2006, 08:04:00 am
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 15, 2006, 10:01:00 am
| QUOTE (tifreak8x @ Aug 15 2006, 11:27 AM) |
| 83+?? No way. It simply will not handle that. 83+SE? I hope it will... |
maybe a demo for the 83+? %)
How is it big so far?
*xlibman reminds everyone that most BASIC RPGs that are the biggest are usually the ones with either the largest amount of features, features not seen in other calc rpgs or long game lenght ^^
Post by: Dragon__lance on August 15, 2006, 12:04:00 pm
Yeah, big games are totally worth it cuz they show the author spent a lot time putting together the game *points to ROL3! As for map creation, maybe some of us could help create some maps? :)
Post by: Halifax on August 15, 2006, 03:45:00 pm
Post by: tifreak on August 15, 2006, 03:50:00 pm
| QUOTE (Dragon__lance @ Aug 15 2006, 11:04 PM) |
| Ahhh,a demo would be great! Just a small, playable version to waste our times with :D Yeah, big games are totally worth it cuz they show the author spent a lot time putting together the game *points to ROL3! As for map creation, maybe some of us could help create some maps? :) |
I wish it was that easy, but I have to have everything line up with the maps, as I make them on graph paper, so I know what values each map stands for. As I said, it would be nice if some of you lived close by...
I might see if I can't get the basic engines and what not done for a demo of sorts of the 83+, though I can't promise much on that either. ;)
Post by: Dragon__lance on August 15, 2006, 03:58:00 pm
As for map making,I seriously hope that my ASCII map editor might be of some use, cuz then you wouldn't need to hardcode the string.
Post by: tifreak on August 16, 2006, 04:26:00 am
Post by: elfprince13 on August 16, 2006, 04:36:00 am
Post by: tifreak on August 16, 2006, 04:43:00 am
I also have a plan on on decreasing sprite size and load time. I plan on taking character "G", and using that as a single line of 0's (8 of them in fact) since if you look at all the sprite data, there are tons of 0s. I would go so far as say that it would take 10k off the data for the sprites.
The only downfall is, I would have to copy the sprite displayer, and edit it to work for my purposes. (Basically, take out size detection, add the code for looking at "G" character, etc)
I am gonna go ahead with the code made for "Pokedex BASIC" and see what kind of reaction times and what not I get, and what kind of finalized sizes it will bring.
Edit:
Well, I timed the first sprite being drawn, and it was roughly 23 seconds. With the new system in place, it was roughly 16, so 7 seconds shaved off roughly. This is gonna vary from sprite to sprite, since some sprites have more spaces than other.
Also, ZPM1 went from 6678 bytes to 6573, by changing just one sprite! :)
So it looks like I will be changing the sprite stuff around a little bit, before going on with anything else. This will also help in getting Pokemon Purple to better fit on the SE, and maybe even a semi playable game for the 83+. :)Oh yes, the time I posted was on my 83+, Green calc. SE should be considerably faster.
Post by: elfprince13 on August 16, 2006, 06:23:00 am
Post by: tifreak on August 16, 2006, 06:27:00 am
Post by: Dragon__lance on August 16, 2006, 06:42:00 am
Post by: tifreak on August 16, 2006, 09:02:00 am
If O=1:Then
If P=1
"8x16 map area->Str#
If P=2
"8x16 map area->Str#
etc
That is my map data. :)
And as to the time, it was approx. I just know that there is a definite speed improvement. :)
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 16, 2006, 10:19:00 am
(test)
Post by: elfprince13 on August 16, 2006, 12:19:00 pm
| QUOTE (Dragon__lance @ Aug 16 2006, 12:42 PM) |
| Whoohoo! Faster loading times! yay,great job! Wow,when i timed it on my 83+, i got about 30 sec's. Great to see you improve the code! However, I still don't understand what you mean that the string has to be hardcoded? Can't the string be recalled into the program like a matrix? |
it can be, but that is still hard-coded into the program. ;)
Post by: Dragon__lance on August 16, 2006, 03:08:00 pm
Post by: tifreak on August 17, 2006, 06:12:00 am
1) for every 00000000 in the string data, I am replacing with "G", which means it will simply skip a row of pixels.
2) After that last pixels are put up there, any 0 beyond it is deleted.
This will decrease the time it takes to get done drawing the sprite, and will decrease the amount of space it will take up, allowing for more stuff to be better able to fit into the game. :)
Edit:
After going through and "optimizing" prgmZPM1, I noticed a 35% drop in size. Originally, the program was 6678 bytes in size, now it is 4363 bytes in size. :)
Post by: kalan_vod on August 17, 2006, 04:28:00 pm
| QUOTE (tifreak8x @ Aug 17 2006, 12:12 PM) |
| Edit: After going through and "optimizing" prgmZPM1, I noticed a 35% drop in size. Originally, the program was 6678 bytes in size, now it is 4363 bytes in size. :) |
Looking nice there, I hope you can keep it up! I love the progress of these updates !
Post by: elfprince13 on August 18, 2006, 12:54:00 am
Post by: tifreak on August 18, 2006, 01:00:00 am
At least for that program anyways.
Post by: kalan_vod on August 18, 2006, 02:21:00 am
| QUOTE (tifreak8x @ Aug 18 2006, 07:00 AM) |
| There are only 25 sprites per program, and I managed to get all of them optimized, so 100% of them are optimized. ;) At least for that program anyways. |
Haha, nice! I thought you were saying you pulled a all nighter and finished all the sprite programs :lol:
, I understand now :supersayan:
....better get to work! ;)Post by: tifreak on August 18, 2006, 08:01:00 am
Post by: Halifax on August 18, 2006, 08:55:00 am
Post by: tifreak on August 18, 2006, 10:10:00 am
I really wish I had clones... :(
Post by: Spellshaper on August 18, 2006, 10:14:00 am
| QUOTE (tifreak8x @ Aug 18 2006, 11:10 PM) |
| I really wish I had clones... :( |
Me not. *Spellshaper
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 18, 2006, 11:05:00 am
I wish I could stay up late :(
Post by: Spellshaper on August 18, 2006, 11:13:00 am
| QUOTE (xlibman @ Aug 19 2006, 12:05 AM) |
| wow nice tifreak8x I hope you wont give up on this project ;) I wish I could stay up late :( |
I don't think he will. ;)
staying up late? look at me. :wacko:
*shows off the rings under his eyes* :paf:
note: it's 00:14 now.
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 18, 2006, 12:17:00 pm
Post by: Radical Pi on August 18, 2006, 12:24:00 pm
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*Radical Pi
Post by: tifreak on August 18, 2006, 03:06:00 pm
back to xhtml though...
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 19, 2006, 01:55:00 am
Post by: elfprince13 on August 19, 2006, 02:14:00 am
| QUOTE (xlibman @ Aug 18 2006, 06:17 PM) |
| well tifreak8x was losing motivation cuz on other forums like UTI, MC, Cemetech nobody replied anymore in pokemon topic :( |
at MC the only people who care about Basic end up posting here anyway. and most of the people at UTI who are interested in it are also here.... and at Cemetech he still gets replies.
Post by: Halifax on August 19, 2006, 04:02:00 am
Post by: tifreak on August 19, 2006, 04:29:00 am
Got pokemon #25-50 optimized. will do 51-75, or maybe even shoot for 100 today.
Post by: Halifax on August 21, 2006, 02:35:00 pm
Post by: tifreak on August 22, 2006, 04:05:00 am
Just managed to get remotivated, so I should have them all done in the next 2-3 days (hopefully by wednesday though).
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 22, 2006, 09:30:00 am
, will next release be when the game is 100% done(aka final release) or will there be a new demo?
Post by: tifreak on August 22, 2006, 04:37:00 pm
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 23, 2006, 02:18:00 am
better to have everything finished first (engine) in case
Post by: tifreak on August 23, 2006, 04:43:00 am
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| ec1 Program Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 23, 2006, 04:46:00 am  wow thats optimising madness, did u used some kind of compression or something?
Post by: tifreak on August 23, 2006, 04:52:00 am
Post by: Spellshaper on August 23, 2006, 04:55:00 am Post by: tifreak on August 23, 2006, 05:01:00 am Post by: Ranman on August 23, 2006, 05:37:00 am  14Kb of saved memory is amazing with that one simple trick! Do you have anymore tricks up your sleeve? Keep up the great work! :king: 
Post by: tifreak on August 23, 2006, 05:46:00 am :angel: lol, I am working on it. :) I will try my hardests to pull things like that off in the future... :)
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 23, 2006, 06:07:00 am Post by: tifreak on August 23, 2006, 06:10:00 am Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 23, 2006, 06:19:00 am Post by: Dragon__lance on August 23, 2006, 10:17:00 am  This has been such an amazing project, nvr give up!
Post by: CureDesu on August 23, 2006, 03:15:00 pm By the way: Just to let everyone know: In the original games, to get into Sapphron city, you have to give the guards something to drink. This literally took me AGES to figure out. Give me a break though, I was like, 8 :banghead: 
Post by: tifreak on August 23, 2006, 04:51:00 pm  Yes, the maps will be all there, though in ascii, and all the trainers should also be in it. (Did you see the pic of Ash's ID card? look around, I am sure I have it in one of my topics, if not, will repost it, or you could look in on the projects section of UTI.) Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 24, 2006, 03:48:00 am Post by: tifreak on August 24, 2006, 08:18:00 am Post by: Spellshaper on August 24, 2006, 09:05:00 am Maps can be a pain cause it gets so repetitive to make them. Make sure to work on it for not too long, or you'll end screaming at the wall for nothing but annoyance like I once did. Creeped my mom out. Post by: tifreak on August 24, 2006, 02:28:00 pm Post by: bfr on August 24, 2006, 03:04:00 pm Well, good luck on this. :) This is looking great so far :king:
Post by: tifreak on August 27, 2006, 02:31:00 pm Right now, I am ironing out bugs in the items display system, and if I can get it fixed with in the next short bit, I will see about making a screenshot, and releasing the programs for those that would like to see how it performs on calc. Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 27, 2006, 02:43:00 pm
Post by: tifreak on August 28, 2006, 08:23:00 am http://www.tifreakware.calcgames.org/pokemon/itemsdemo.zip Enjoy! :) Post by: krazygrenade on August 28, 2006, 11:49:00 am . i will check it out in a sec
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 28, 2006, 01:47:00 pm Post by: tifreak on August 28, 2006, 03:39:00 pm Edit:  the numbers on the bottom were for debugging purposes, and will be removed from the final version. Post by: Radical Pi on August 29, 2006, 04:22:00 am So, criticism time! I suggest not making PokeFlute a Key Item. Instant Awakening whenever you want broke the game. It made your rival's Exxegutor (however it's spelled) near worthless. Or you can just make it work on the Snorlax only. Exp.All isn't a key item. Some other things: How will you get trade evolutions to work? Kadabra->Alakazam, Haunter->Gengar? Will you have some NPCs trading those, like Yellow did with that Machoke? That's all for now, I'll be back with more. Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 29, 2006, 09:27:00 am Post by: elfprince13 on August 29, 2006, 10:05:00 am Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 29, 2006, 10:27:00 am Post by: kalan_vod on August 29, 2006, 11:40:00 am
It looks like it is VTI + Calc Capture, he was having problems with the OS he was using with PTI I guess (1.12 not 1.19)? With the special chars. Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 29, 2006, 12:56:00 pm Post by: elfprince13 on August 29, 2006, 01:55:00 pm
Post by: tifreak on August 30, 2006, 01:44:00 am
Pokeflute: Well it is in the original game, so I will put it on here, besides, you cannot advance if you do not have it so... Exp All: Oops, oh well, I will just have to leave it where it is at, because it would require a ton of work to move it... I plan on getting a decent link protocol for it. That way, you can trade with other players. We just have to see how things work out. QuoteBegin
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brb... Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 30, 2006, 03:38:00 am Post by: tifreak on August 30, 2006, 03:54:00 am
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