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Title: PP is back!
Post by: tifreak on June 22, 2006, 08:30:00 am

I have resumed working on Pokemon Purple again. :)

I plan on getting all the Pokedex stuff done first, and get that out of the way, and then get back to the map. I think my only slowdown will be the conversions of the pics to b&w, and then to hex. After that, things should move right along.

Title: PP is back!
Post by: Liazon on June 22, 2006, 08:35:00 am

yay!!! put your hands together yo!!

Glad it isn't dead.  

Title: PP is back!
Post by: tifreak on June 22, 2006, 10:41:00 am

Oh, it is far from it! :D

Thanks to Mathstuf, I now have them all easily set at 32x32 bitmaps, so all I have to do is open them up in PAINT, set the zoom to 800%, and turn on the grid, and I can see each "pixel" that makesup the pokemon. Since I am shooting for black and white, I will be porting over the first pokemon, bulbasaur, and posting the before and after image.

I hope to have this completed sometime tonight. :)

Title: PP is back!
Post by: Spellshaper on June 22, 2006, 10:48:00 am

Yay! Glad to see some progress.

Btw: When you choose the zoom in paint, you can click on an area just below 8x, one pixel above the bottom line of the box.

That will get you a 10x zoom ^^

Title: PP is back!
Post by: tifreak on June 22, 2006, 11:19:00 am

:D Thanks :D

I have the first converted to hex!! I am plugging the data into the calc now, see what happens... I *should* be posting screenshots very soon...

0wn3d:

Before:



After:



I was already told about the one pixel missing, but please take into account that this was done from paint, and ported to hex, by eye. :)

Title: PP is back!
Post by: Liazon on June 22, 2006, 12:53:00 pm

O_O wow MathStuf really knows his scripting

Title: PP is back!
Post by: tifreak on June 22, 2006, 01:45:00 pm

I had the greatest idea for the item system, and I can't believe I didnt see it before. >.<

I will have a For( loop to go through the list and deteriming if list element is >0. My only problem that I see thus far is exiting the For loop... I might have to do a While loop... Anyways, in this manner, it will retain some of its dynamic abilities, on not displaying what isn't there, and displaying what is. :)

Anyways, I have to determine the longest item name, and then see how well that displays on the screen within the item menu screen, and will have a sub("string" system to display the item names.

I will try to make a screenshot of that once it is implemented. I hope the above made some sense...  

Title: PP is back!
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 23, 2006, 01:09:00 am

lwow nice to see this back I cant wait to try it

Title: PP is back!
Post by: Radical Pi on June 23, 2006, 01:27:00 am

Nice bulb sprite! Which version is it from? I can't recognize it; unless its the small icon used in the menu in Advanced generation of games. The angle used is right for that.

Glad to see PP back in action. ^^ I hope you have a good idea on how to store all the text for dex entries.

Title: PP is back!
Post by: tifreak on June 23, 2006, 02:30:00 am

It is the icon for FireRed/Leaf Green. :)

And no, not yet... I am workin on it though. ;) I figured if I could port 2 images a day, I would have all images converted to hex in 2 months, while I work on the other aspects of Pokemon.

Title: PP is back!
Post by: TsiJiang on June 23, 2006, 07:38:00 am

Awesome...

Title: PP is back!
Post by: tifreak on June 23, 2006, 08:54:00 am

Horrifying discovery...

The sprite data just for the Pokemon (all 151) will be around 42000 bytes in size. Gonna require some mad skillz programmin that all in...

Title: PP is back!
Post by: Spellshaper on June 23, 2006, 09:50:00 am

youchy... good luck on it, though...

how about making a lil prgm that takes a pic and translates the sprites to hex?

Title: PP is back!
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 23, 2006, 12:26:00 pm

wow thats alot o.o I'm sure you can get it to fit on calc tho, dont forget about resource and flash gordon

Title: PP is back!
Post by: Spellshaper on June 23, 2006, 12:30:00 pm

QuoteBegin-xlibman+Jun 24 2006, 01:26 AM-->

QUOTE (xlibman @ Jun 24 2006, 01:26 AM)

wow thats alot o.o I'm sure you can get it to fit on calc tho, dont forget about resource and flash gordon

 I'd recommend resource over flashy gosh :ninja:
Way more flexible.

Title: PP is back!
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 23, 2006, 12:32:00 pm

true, I just recommended both in case he didnt liked one of them

Title: PP is back!
Post by: Spellshaper on June 23, 2006, 12:36:00 pm

How can you not like resource? :lol:
Ok, when u got xLib to work with... ;)

Title: PP is back!
Post by: tifreak on June 23, 2006, 02:57:00 pm

Oh, it is resource all the way! :D I just have to divide the data accordingly...


Before:



After:

Title: PP is back!
Post by: necro on June 23, 2006, 05:47:00 pm

QuoteBegin-tifreak8x+Jun 23 2006, 07:54 PM-->

QUOTE (tifreak8x @ Jun 23 2006, 07:54 PM)

Horrifying discovery... The sprite data just for the Pokemon (all 151) will be around 42000 bytes in size. Gonna require some mad skillz programmin that all in...

 if you were using 32X32 asm sprites, it could concievably take as little as 19584 bytes for 153 32X32s...hmm...I ought to look into this.

Title: PP is back!
Post by: Radical Pi on June 24, 2006, 02:17:00 am

The ivy sprite's looking nice. But realizing the size of all the sprites is different, but forced the same size here, you should have some way of telling the size difference between a Rattata and a Gyarados. ;)

Title: PP is back!
Post by: tifreak on June 24, 2006, 02:31:00 am

Yeah, trust me, I have been giving it some thought... Once I get the pics all converted, I will see what can't be done...So far, there are a lot of lines at the top that are blank.

@necro: That sounds cool, but I am still shooting to make as much of this game in BASIC as possible... And even if it were to be asm, it would require the program to be split in two, since I need several programs to be unarchived for it to even run.

I am glad that you guys like the sprites so far. :) I am going to make a page on my site so I can post them all up...

Title: PP is back!
Post by: Dragon__lance on June 24, 2006, 03:54:00 am

nice work! :thumb: The sprites are awesome, good spriting! Out of curiosity, whats your method for displaying sprites again, wasn't it a basic hex to sprite decoder?  

Title: PP is back!
Post by: tifreak on June 24, 2006, 04:07:00 am

Yeah, http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/385/38508.html

I really need to get that updated though... I will try to submit the updated version soon.

And thank you. :) I am glad they are turning out well enough with out all the "shading".

I hope to be able to get 2 more done tonight...

Title: PP is back!
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 24, 2006, 03:26:00 pm

nice sprites ^^

Title: PP is back!
Post by: tifreak on June 25, 2006, 08:09:00 am

:)

Title: PP is back!
Post by: Spellshaper on June 25, 2006, 08:17:00 am

sweet! how long does it take ou to convert one sprite, btw?
Just curious :)

Title: PP is back!
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 25, 2006, 08:22:00 am

cool tifreAK8x keep it up!

Title: PP is back!
Post by: tifreak on June 25, 2006, 08:29:00 am

QuoteBegin-Spellshaper+Jun 25 2006, 07:17 PM-->

QUOTE (Spellshaper @ Jun 25 2006, 07:17 PM)

sweet! how long does it take ou to convert one sprite, btw? Just curious :)

 Thanks. :)

It takes around 30 min to convert it by hand...

Title: PP is back!
Post by: Spellshaper on June 25, 2006, 08:38:00 am

That's some time o.o

Title: PP is back!
Post by: Radical Pi on June 25, 2006, 08:41:00 am

Very nice Venusaur!

If I haven't brought it up already, remember you have the sprites of your guys facing the other way in battle too. Double work then.

And unrelated, will you put in any of the old glitches? At least http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glitch_City? Not the Mew glitch, because if I recall correctly Mew would be available in PP after beating both versions?

Title: PP is back!
Post by: Liazon on June 25, 2006, 09:09:00 am

You just have to love those sprites!

Title: PP is back!
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 25, 2006, 09:37:00 am

that take a long while to convert o.o

Title: PP is back!
Post by: tifreak on June 25, 2006, 10:19:00 am

lol, I am only having the way they are facing for battles, to keep from takin 84kb of ram. ;)

And yes, it will take a while, though Kerm is gonna make a script to help with it...

Title: PP is back!
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 25, 2006, 10:32:00 am

cool i hope this speed up developpement ;)

Title: PP is back!
Post by: tifreak on June 26, 2006, 01:11:00 am

This is a screenshot of the item screen. The bottom box is for an icon for the TM/HM, but I need to make one that is decent first. ;)

The little 6 pixel long space at the bottom of each icon is where the indicator will go, to denote which section you are on.

Title: PP is back!
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 26, 2006, 01:52:00 am

cool stuff, will you also have the pokedex?

Title: PP is back!
Post by: tifreak on June 26, 2006, 06:13:00 am

Yeah, I have planned on adding it, in a very basic sense. Basically, you will be able to determine what pokemon you have caught, seen, etc, and that is it. No info will probably be added.

Title: PP is back!
Post by: Dragon__lance on June 26, 2006, 06:31:00 am

sounds complex! This game will have so many awesome features, great job! :)

Title: PP is back!
Post by: Spellshaper on June 26, 2006, 07:34:00 am

here ya go, CD icons for the item screen :)
choose wichever you like better
http://img481.imageshack.us/img481/2306/pokecd3qu.png

Title: PP is back!
Post by: tifreak on June 26, 2006, 08:09:00 am

You are the bomb!!! ^_^

Thank you so much! Adding it now!


Oh yes, I am sure you will be wondering how the controls will work:

Up/Down will of course look at the current screen to select...
Left/Right will allow you to go from page to page.
Graph will allow you to go through the sections. I am debating about putting in a back function on that, but I might use the button next to it for that purpose.

Title: PP is back!
Post by: Spellshaper on June 26, 2006, 08:47:00 am

QuoteBegin-tifreak8x+Jun 26 2006, 09:09 PM-->

QUOTE (tifreak8x @ Jun 26 2006, 09:09 PM)

You are the bomb!!! ^_^

Maybe, but I don't intend to explode anytime soon. :lol:

It's always good to know one can be of help.

Title: PP is back!
Post by: tifreak on June 26, 2006, 02:16:00 pm

Well, I have it now to where it displays 9 items on the screen, and the amount of each item, except it will not show the name of the first item. This should be fixed soon. I will post an animated screenshot once that is fixed, and the cursor system is going.

Title: PP is back!
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 26, 2006, 02:20:00 pm

*xlibman

Title: PP is back!
Post by: tifreak on June 26, 2006, 03:51:00 pm

Fixed bug, using a different method than what I wanted, but oh well. Now to build the cursor functions in.

Title: PP is back!
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 27, 2006, 01:53:00 am

does it works fine now?

Title: PP is back!
Post by: tifreak on June 27, 2006, 02:50:00 am

Yeah, the display function works great now... I might have to write up a tutorial on it. :)

Now to just make the selection system work, which shouldn't be too hard...

Title: PP is back!
Post by: Radical Pi on June 27, 2006, 11:28:00 am

So PP's item bag will be separated into pockets? Keep in mind they didn't do that until GSC: in RBY you had a max storage of 20.

Title: PP is back!
Post by: tifreak on June 27, 2006, 02:41:00 pm

Well, there are 29 normally used items, another 20 or so key items, and the few pokeballs. I didn't feel like messing with that, and you will only be able to get one line of items, with a max of 99.

And this adds something different that the older ones didn't have. :) Kinda sets my game a lil further apart.

Title: PP is back!
Post by: katmaster on June 27, 2006, 07:35:00 pm

So is this game only for the SE calcs then?

Title: PP is back!
Post by: tifreak on June 28, 2006, 01:11:00 am

In its current state, no. Once it is done, yes. I just hope it will all fit on the calc...

Title: PP is back!
Post by: katmaster on June 28, 2006, 06:55:00 am

Ok coolz. I only have a + so that means I can play it! YAYA!

Title: PP is back!
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 28, 2006, 07:03:00 am

I hope this fit in 1.54 MB of archive o.o

Title: PP is back!
Post by: tifreak on June 28, 2006, 08:13:00 am

Well, the ROM on the web is around 700 KB I believe... (I dled it in a short time on dialup, so...) I will be leaving out the text that describes the Pokemon, since it never really added anything about the Pokemon to me...

Also, I have the items displayer to go through the pages without error for normal items, so the key items, Pokeballs, and TMs and Hms should be cake. I will just be a matter of doing some variable changing and calling that part of the program. ;)

The bad news...

I will need to get all the Pokemon and their stats programmed into the game before I can fully test out the items system. And yes, I know, this totally bites. It maybe a month or two before I get to test the item system. :( I will try to get it to select the other "pockets" before worrying about it, since that would simply leave me with just makin the selection and detection work.


Edit: Oh, and I am so writin up an advanced tutorial on this. This system would rock in RPGs. :D Would you like me to give an animated screenie of what is there thus far?

Title: PP is back!
Post by: Speler on June 28, 2006, 09:07:00 am

Yes, I would like an animated screenie myself, I am greatly interested in this project.  Is there no other way to test the item selection, like setting random values to the data temporarily?

Title: PP is back!
Post by: tifreak on June 28, 2006, 12:06:00 pm

Not really... I need the correct things set in place, so it will know which pokemon used what, etc... I will see about uploadin that screenie shortly... ;)

Title: PP is back!
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 29, 2006, 01:28:00 am

How many items there is in the game? o.o

Title: PP is back!
Post by: tifreak on June 29, 2006, 05:00:00 am

I think between normal items, key items and Pokeballs, there are 56 different items. Then there are also 50 TMs and 6 HMs.

Title: PP is back!
Post by: Radical Pi on June 29, 2006, 08:13:00 am

Do you mean 5 HMs? ;)
That screenshot is nice. Are there that many ThunderStones in the game?

[cough]link-battles![/cough]

Title: PP is back!
Post by: Spellshaper on June 29, 2006, 08:21:00 am

maybe he's gonna include a secret HM?? O_O

Title: PP is back!
Post by: Radical Pi on June 29, 2006, 08:44:00 am

Unlikely, unless it's HM 09. In the newer versions there are eight.

Title: PP is back!
Post by: Spellshaper on June 29, 2006, 08:48:00 am

spoilsport. ^^

Title: PP is back!
Post by: tifreak on June 29, 2006, 08:58:00 am

Mwhahahahaha

Spellshaper is correct... There will be a secret one... But, you have to beat one version of the game. ;)

Just for the laughs, I want to name it either 0wn3d or pwned, and have it wipe out any opposing Pokemon, and have 5 moves. :) I am thinkin about makin it learnable by Mewto only... What do you all think??

Title: PP is back!
Post by: Spellshaper on June 29, 2006, 09:06:00 am

O_o w00t

Title: PP is back!
Post by: Radical Pi on June 29, 2006, 09:16:00 am

Learnable only by Mew. He learns every TM/HM.

Make it a Calc-type attack; super effective to everything. ^^


Unrelated: give the enemies a decent AI. Like for wild pokemon, they are fighting to survive. So moves like Teleport they would use first. And trainers... should fight to win. Set up winning combos, sacrifice someone, just be smarter than the game's trainers were.

Title: PP is back!
Post by: tifreak on June 29, 2006, 02:43:00 pm

While I would so love to do that... You have to think of the requirements this game is going to make on just memory alone... We shall see though...

Title: PP is back!
Post by: Radical Pi on June 29, 2006, 11:16:00 pm

Please, the current AI is the reason people think this game is childish and easy. Remaking the original would mean disaster.

Title: PP is back!
Post by: Spellshaper on June 30, 2006, 12:21:00 am

I always had the feeling the was no AI, but pure chance... randint(

Title: PP is back!
Post by: MathStuf on July 02, 2006, 12:18:00 pm

It did have AI, but I agree, it was not the hardest thing in the world. I fall trainers could switch/use items, battles would become a lot harder. Same if they actually saw the benefit of defense moves.

Title: PP is back!
Post by: Radical Pi on July 02, 2006, 12:59:00 pm

I noticed some Gym Leaders use X-items to raise stats. Brock once used a Full Restore O_o.
I'll be hoping for opponents at the same intelligence level of online battling. So NO RANDINT(!!! :ninja:

Title: PP is back!
Post by: tifreak on July 02, 2006, 01:50:00 pm

hmm... how bout I have it set up a committee of randInt(s to see what it wants to do?? lol

I will see what I can come up with. ;)


Edit: Here be a new screenie...



Just thought yall who was not on irc last night would like to see it. This pic is all of the normal items >0, with no change to the code itself. If all items =0, then it simply displays CANCEL.  

Title: PP is back!
Post by: mdjenkins86 on July 14, 2006, 04:02:00 pm

very nice, the sprites I mean.

Title: PP is back!
Post by: tifreak on July 15, 2006, 01:32:00 am

Thanks! :)

I plan on posting the Pokemon as they would look on the screen (all 25 of them) on a page on my site, hopefully, later this week. What this means is I will actually have to take the time to finish work on my projects pages...

Title: PP is back!
Post by: Spellshaper on July 15, 2006, 02:19:00 am

QuoteBegin-mdjenkins86+Jul 15 2006, 05:02 AM-->

QUOTE (mdjenkins86 @ Jul 15 2006, 05:02 AM)

very nice, the sprites I mean.

 indeed. and welcome to the forums. :)

Title: PP is back!
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on July 15, 2006, 09:51:00 am

Hey mjenkins86 long time no see here, welcome back ;)

for anyone who might not know he was the most active members in the early days of Omnimaga forums (*xlibman

Title: PP is back!
Post by: Spellshaper on August 06, 2006, 08:28:00 am

hugh. I got something for you, tifreak8x:

Title: PP is back!
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on August 06, 2006, 09:01:00 am

wow nice spellshaper the pokemon pic will go in the square right?

Title: PP is back!
Post by: Spellshaper on August 06, 2006, 09:18:00 am

Uhm. jeah.
The most time consuming task was making the "-dex"-letters. XD