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News / Re: Old links converted
« on: March 16, 2014, 07:10:16 pm »
All the old forum links on the site have been converted! Only topic and post links have been converted though. The next step will be to convert the download links.

An example script for how to update an entire forum to use the correct links for omnimaga will be released soon. There are some performance issues that Eeems is trying to resolve. These issues were not a problem for us due to how powerful our VPS is, but for external sites that don't have the same stats as Omnimaga might not be able to run the conversion scripts that Eeems has created in their current form.


http://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/URI.html
Thats nice.

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News / Re: Old links converted
« on: March 15, 2014, 05:37:44 pm »
Incrementing everything by 100000 to prevent overlaps then remapping old ID links to new ones would have been the ideal scenario for other sites, but the debate is closed by now since what's done is done.
You keep saying that, but in all honesty, that would cause all sorts of problems down the road. Out of all the solutions this one is the one that causes less impact overall in the future. All the other "solutions" are just bandaids that temporarily fix the problem. If I've learned anything as a professional web developer, temporary solutions are never the best option. It's better to spend the money now to solve something, even if it causes a few temporary issues that can easily be resolved then to put in a bandaid that will cost more to fix in the long run.

EDIT: FYI - I literally am a professional web developer. It is literally my job.

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News / Old links converted
« on: March 15, 2014, 02:38:35 am »
All the old forum links on the site have been converted! Only topic and post links have been converted though. The next step will be to convert the download links.

An example script for how to update an entire forum to use the correct links for omnimaga will be released soon. There are some performance issues that Eeems is trying to resolve. These issues were not a problem for us due to how powerful our VPS is, but for external sites that don't have the same stats as Omnimaga might not be able to run the conversion scripts that Eeems has created in their current form.

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General Calculator Help / Re: Help viewing downgrade guide
« on: March 14, 2014, 05:55:17 pm »
Hi,

I am trying to view this post: http://www.omnimaga.org/index.php?topic=17695.msg316433#msg316433


However it is re directing me a random page, does any one know why? 
Try converting the link via Ourl.ca
We recently had an upgrade that broke all the old links.
Here is the new link: http://www.omnimaga.org/general-calculator-help/new-cx-cas-os-worth-upgrading/msg370557/#msg370557

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News / Re: Smf Upgrade - The Dawn of a New Era
« on: March 13, 2014, 05:56:26 pm »
Locking the topic because it has strayed from what it should be discussing.

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News / Re: Ourl.ca Gets a Home Page!
« on: March 13, 2014, 11:33:04 am »
Well I already read it in full several times to be sure I didn't read what you wrote, but I did. You are saying "we will fix links on Omnimaga, and other websites can do it too", and I didn't read "we are going to use a solution on our end that doesn't need anyone doing anything such as url-rewriting as Adriweb said or adding something to new urls to detect old ones and convert them".
Yes, we will fix the links on our end and have provided a tool for external sites to fix the links they have. We will not do url rewriting because there is no way to determine if the link is an old one or not. Changing the current new urls by adding a directory path to them just adds a level of complexity that makes it more difficult to maintain it going forward, which is what fixing all the IDs was to avoid.

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News / Re: Ourl.ca Gets a Home Page!
« on: March 13, 2014, 11:03:35 am »
Well Google will probably change it indeed, but what about topics on Cemetech, TI Planet and every other website who linked to Omnimaga ?
Please read the main post in full. I have answered this question there.

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News / Re: Smf Upgrade - The Dawn of a New Era
« on: March 13, 2014, 11:03:03 am »
No need for me to beat around the bush : ;)

I'm not going to be changing the folder structure of Omnimaga and adding junk to the urls. It looks unprofessional and it make maintaining the site that much more of a headache.
What's also unprofessional (and an actual, current issue) is for links on other websites to now be pointing at "random" other topics.

Why isn't url-rewriting possible ?
(detect old ones and apply the offset)
Old URLs are still valid current ones. Rewriting them would break current live links.

Having external links pointing to the wrong pages on our website does not make our site look unprofessional, it just means that the external sites are out of date and need to be updated. It is not the responsibility of any site to make sure that external sites have the right links to them. That is up to the site admin of that external site. We have done our due diligence and let people know that the links have changed, and we have provided a tool to fix the external links.

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News / Re: Smf Upgrade - The Dawn of a New Era
« on: March 13, 2014, 10:08:57 am »
I just got an idea about links being broken. I don't know how feasible it is though, I am not an expert at web.

Why not put the "new website" in a "new folder" and have all links to the "old folder" be redirected with an offset to the "new folder" ? This way, every link already written somewhere is still valid and every new link is too.
I'm not going to be changing the folder structure of Omnimaga and adding junk to the urls. It looks unprofessional and it make maintaining the site that much more of a headache.

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News / Re: Ourl.ca Gets a Home Page!
« on: March 13, 2014, 10:07:22 am »
I have provided an API on that site for other sites to use to convert links.
As soon as I have finished converting all the links on the old Omnimaga posts I will be contacting the admins of TI-planet, ticalc etc with instructions on how to do it on their own site. Cemetech already has the information on how to do so.

Looking nice! (And yes, it is lacking CSS) but it is still helpful.
Suggestion: Linking of all the other pages like /issue, /request and img.ourl.ca etc.
On the list. I've got to rewrite how ourl.ca handles those types of links though. Currently it's hard coded and I'd prefer it to be database driven so it's easier for me to expand upon the link set.
Yeah, sorry about posting in two topics. I first posted in the other one then thought this one was more appropriate.

Well why not add some junk as you say, if that allows some redirection to be done and prevents links on every website to be broken ? I think it's better than just fixing posts on Omnimaga and losing Google referencing.
All decisions behind how URLs are going to be handled going forward have already been decided by the administrative team. Google will eventually update all of it's cached results and there is little I can do about it.

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News / Ourl.ca Gets a Home Page!
« on: March 13, 2014, 01:57:09 am »
It may not be pretty yet, but it's functional. Ourl.ca now has a main page that you can use to shorten topic/post urls. You can also use it to convert the old post/topic ID links from before the upgrade to new ones that will now work.
Please don't use this to update old posts though, we are going to run a script to update them all automatically. If you were to update it before we ran the script it would invalidate your change. You can update your posts with the new full URLs (like this: http://www.omnimaga.org/news/ourl-ca-gets-a-home-page!) generated by the forum. Updating with the generated ourl.ca link will cause the breaks when we get around to running our conversion though.

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News / Re: All posts from 2005 to 2008 back online!
« on: March 11, 2014, 05:05:47 pm »
I'll have to figure out a way to handle that. Currently all omnimaga.org/<name>/<name> urls are redirected to the best match for a board/topic it can find. I'll  add in something that ignores directories that exist.

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News / Re: All posts from 2005 to 2008 back online!
« on: March 11, 2014, 09:58:11 am »
The even older Omnimaga site seems to be down now.
Temporarily until I figure out a better spot to put it.

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Aaah ok, I'll try to ask him when I see him around. Until the upgrade I didn't see him in #omnimaga for almost 2 years, though... O.O
He's been around. He mostly was in #IRP though. I also see him online on skype a ton.

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CoolioJazz is working on a replacement for recent posts that mimics the old style. You'll have to bug him about it.

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