That is why I would only experiment if in the group there were people good at teaching the techniques and did not pressure me on doing some stuff.

I agree with geekboy. This isn't exactly practical.

I am going to verify that in coding.
If people did not tried lots of TI-BASIC commands like Plots, horizontal/vertical sprites with text, dual layer we wouldn't have the quality in graphics games we have.
It will definitely be a bit slow paced but for puzzles or board games is doable. I believe I can optimize and push speed to be very playable and even faster than some old ASCII games.

still its awsome although i wonder how much more it will flicker when you have a decent amount of code in it

That is why it has to be a simple game and slow paced. Still I added movement code without boundaries to check.

I think a puzzle or board game is the way to go. Action, adventure does not fit in this engine.
Someone that played lots of flash games or board game can give me a hint?

wow thats just awsome and the flicker isnt to bad ive seen much worse on things ive made with c3 X.x

Keep in mind that I pushed the emulator settings so almost any engine looks good.
But this is not emulator trickery. On calculator you get a very similar result to the screen shot.

This is an experiment I am doing mostly for my fun. It is intended only for SE calculators because of speed. It has some flicker but for Pure TI-BASIC is actually cool.
This will give use to my recent utility of hidden tokens, too.

The base code of is:
:While 1
:Dispgraph
:Disp
:End
This should enlighten who knows pretty well TI-BASIC. (at least I instantly knew how to make this code work) See the demo code for further understanding of the technique.

I already have a demo and screenie for the more skeptic.
But I need a idea for the game. It has to be with ASCII graphics, simple, a bit slow paced but fun. (if possible addictive too)
EDIT: puzzle or board games genres is the way to go.

In BASIC the closest thing to grayscale I ever had was While 1:Dispgraph:Disp:End and it flickers very bad

Nice program Galandros btw, it should be useful to some people.

Thanks.
Funny, I was going to post about that piece of code. I was amazed to what I saw in my calculator.
It flickers bad but not that bad in a TI-84+SE and a very simple ASCII game is possible. I am so gonna do it, most for my amusement. I just need a good and simple idea to implement. Any ideas? (if I knew some easy yet addicting game like snake but not as much repetitively coded)

Quote from: Galandros on May 30, 2010, 11:58:15 am

Yes, that is exactly it.

I think my program has all visual tokens with 1 symbol of width we need. AXSYMBZ has all non accessible from TI-OS menus like Catalogue and statistics and ATOKZ2.8xp has all of them.
What do you think about the order of tokens and usage?

The programs were shrunk a few more bytes on my calculator and is all I can reduce. After I receive feedback and write the ignoreme, I mean readme, I will release in ticalc since is one of the best tokens picker and the only with grayscale.
The grayscale I note in the program is that the current selected token is a bit lighter than the other tokens on the screen.
Do you think there is any problem saying it has grayscale? People may bash me with it being flicker and not grayscale. (especially TI-83+ users) I though it is quite funny to say this has grayscale.

That's as close as you can get to TI-BASIC grayscale on my TI-83 Plus. The only time I've seen nearly flickerless BASIC grayscale was when I tried it out with a single pixel turning on and off with nothing else in the loop. Can't find a use for that, though.

I do. It is one of my old TI-BASIC projects I want to finish: a picture editor. The cursor is a gray pixel.

Am I crazy or did I just read pure BASIC grayscale?

Yes but kind of.
It is actually 3 level (white, grayish and black), done with ASCII and probably only looks good in my calculator (TI-84+SE).
You only see gray in the token you select (it has a lighter colour tone of the rest of the screen black pixels and black underscore bellow) because I am erasing and redrawing the character during the getkey loop.

In UTI there is discussion of this kind of made grayscale and Weregoose has a large pictures with all mixtures of TI-BASIC tokens to achieve different patterns of gray sprites. So I am quite serious about Pure TI-BASIC grayscale. It is VERY limited. With luck, you can do a simple ASCII game with one symbol being grayish (some imagination may be needed).
EDIT: picture may have been lost in the Internet because of UTI move but here's a topic about it http://www.unitedti.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=8828&view=findpost&p=134331
I might have a copy in my hard drive.