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News / Re: New TI-Nspire OS 3.6 with extra lockdown
« on: October 17, 2013, 02:26:41 am »
Tried it out on my CAS CX with nlaunch, it turned my 5KB document into a 7KB document. When I "downgraded" the document, it went back to 5KB.
Interesting (but sad).
What kind of document was that, by the way ?

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News / Re: New TI-Nspire OS 3.6 with extra lockdown
« on: October 16, 2013, 09:52:22 pm »
Mainly design changes and some Lua scripting changes too.

Official changelog will be coming soon anyway

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News / Re: New TI-Nspire OS 3.6 with extra lockdown
« on: October 16, 2013, 08:21:45 am »
I highly doubt tht it will come with OS 3.6.... It's too recent :P

The Lua API changes are normally going to come as an official separate document, this time, so it'll be better than before, where you had to look for the changes yourself in the doc :P

In any case, Inspired-Lua's wiki will have a detailed page.
It's not here right now but will be on http://wiki.inspired-lua.org/Changes_in_OS_3.6

Also, it's not just exactly the API that changes - you'll see ^^

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News / Re: New TI-Nspire OS 3.6 with extra lockdown
« on: October 15, 2013, 07:10:51 am »
If the HP manages to fix all known HP Prime bugs before next school year, that the price doesn't increase higher than the Nspire CX and that more and more people adopt the platform over the Nspire, then TI will have no choice but to adapt the Nspire to that new market.
For me, before thinking about aquiring a large(r) part (or at least non-negligible) of the market, HP will seriously have to make the Prime more professional. Not that competitors didn't have hard times with their first release, but the HP prime is competing with the Nspire CX which has years of evolution now, and bugs "everywhere" is still bad for the customer point of view- who isn't going to be lenient about bugs/crashes. They buy something, they want it to work. And the more intuitive/fast/profesionnal looking, the better. So far, I don't think the Prime targets students well enough. And if HP makes a calculator not targetted at students, then they simply can't expect to get a non-negligible market share in that field, whetether they think TI's way of doing things (like a very user-friendly CAS and interaction/display in general) is not profesionnal looking, or whatever.

Currently, the HP Prime has no ASM/C support
Officialy, I don't think it ever will. (or then, it won't probably be fit for exams, and thus HP would have abandoned the main target : students).
However we can hope that they won't take the same measures as TI does in every versions, making everything to prevent ndless.

but the calculator is MUCH faster than the TI-Nspire and offers a programming language officially on-calc programmable that does nearly as much as Lua and at much faster speed.
Yes, the Prime is much faster, and some of its Basic commands are actually not possible in Nspire Lua (let alone Basic), but on some other points, Lua's much better. It's really much of a different approach, and up to the user to like better whichever platform, in the end.
Anyway, has slow programming ever stopped coders to do what they want ? Just look at the myriad of marvelous things done in z80 and 68k Basic , for instance.

Many younger students prefer BASIC-like languages because they're easier to learn as a first programming language,
All that's great but it would have been a much more valid point like 10 years ago. Today, most of the student don't give a crap about programming on their calculators anyway, because most of them have their smartphones to lose their time on. It sure is sad, but it's the time we live in, now - and I don't think there is anything we can do to change that.

but sadly, the BASIC language on the TI-Nspire makes it a major PITA to program anything that is even close to useable by the average student.
I'll have to disagree on that. While z80, 68k and other platforms allow a mode in-depth I/O and graphics control from Basic, I challenge you to find a better platform for math-oriented programming than the Nspire's Basic.
And as I just said, when students program on their calcultor, it's mainly because they have to do it, so they won't care much about having ASM capabilities or not, for example, they wouldn't have used it anyway, since they must be forced to program to consider looking at Basic programming in the first place.
on the other side, the small community of students who enjoy programming on such devices will obviously find the Prime's Basic way more powerful than the Nspire's in terms of raw programming capabilities and speed.
And on the Nspire, they can look at Lua scripting, and if they can depending on their device/OS, C and ASM.
Anyway, conclusion for that part : the "average student", as you say, will be largely satisfied enough with the Nspire's Basic. (and probably 20% of the features will be used).

Sadly we can't judge if the HP Prime will compete well, because it came out one month after back-to-school 2013, after most students had already purchased another calculator, but there already seems to be a decent amount of users on HP Museum (their daily forum activity even rivals Cemetech and Omni now, even with a batshit insane registration system)
Well, early-adopters' peak, I guess. We can only wait and see in the future what TI's response to the Prime will be (if they ever feel the need to actually respond. They are so powerful onthe market that they wouldn't really need to take harsh measures to keep their market share)

If TI did some efforts in not providing us an half-hassled TI-BASIC language and made it and Lua as fast as HP PPL, then maybe we wouldn't be complaining as much.
Sure. Although the 2x faster processor isn't there for nothing :P

If they just can't find ways to make both languages faster, then why won't they just upgrade the processor to 400 MHz or something? It's not like they'll ruin themselves doing so, considering how cheap processors are nowadays.
They certainly can (and, well, TI knows about microprocessors.....), and they most probably will, but when they decide it's going to be needed.
Again, do average student need 400 MHz to calculate a derivative (at best...) ? Nope. Programmers (probably a too small part of the customer base to actually weight in the balance enough) may, however, to do advanced stuff that would be slower otherwise.
So that's why, I think, they just don't feel the need to upgrade the hardware to a better one, that might cost a little bit more.

And instead of trying in every way to block every Ndless program, why won't TI just try to find ways to make the teacher mode impossible to hack? That's the only reason why they're blocking Ndless after all.
Well, nothing is never hackable anyway :P
And the point of Ndless is not to mess with the teacher stuff like PTT. It just opens doors. What some users decide then to do is their own choice...
Several solutions (like having a separate, open Nspire system where native coding is allowed and documented, and a exam-reserved OS where it would be closed (but which native developers wouldn't care about anyways since the other OS is there)) have been proposed to TI. Even though it's unlikely they will adpot such measures, we can at least say we have tried to discuss for the good of all.

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TI Z80 / Re: Snake TI84+C
« on: October 14, 2013, 11:18:07 am »
Yep, very nice, congratz :)

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News / Re: New TI-Nspire OS 3.6 with extra lockdown
« on: October 13, 2013, 01:33:37 pm »
Well, yes, for each new version, everyone expects to find patched holes, etc.

Here, though, blocking TNOC because of some changes in the verification process after that, is just not cool. TNOC never did damage (quite the contrary...), for example it allows people to delete stuff they were not going to use (samples etc.), thus gaining space on the machine.

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Miscellaneous / Re: Affordable student accomodation in Paris
« on: October 12, 2013, 06:44:33 pm »
Sadly, "Paris" and "affordable" in the same sentence is rarely going to be real :(

I hope you find something, though, you never know !


Levak and Excale, for example, who sometimes post here, live around Paris, maybe they know what to do better than me (I live in the south of France)

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Nspire I/O / Re: How can I do IO through the USB port 4 cx CAS?
« on: October 12, 2013, 05:53:30 pm »
Well, this is not possible neither through Basic nor Lua.
In C(++), with Ndless, there might be some things you could find. Try to look at ndlessly and Hackspire.

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TI-BASIC / Re: [Nspire] Optional arguments
« on: October 11, 2013, 06:02:03 pm »
Nope, sorry :(

(Although you may try passing a table and take what's inside)

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Ndless / Re: Size of usb_device_request_t unknown?
« on: October 09, 2013, 08:26:01 pm »
Ok, it looks like removing struct worked... That is needed sometimes, newish to c, but not programming. Thanks for the help.
Well, it's needed when you haven't typedef a struct :)

And, np.

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Ndless / Re: Size of usb_device_request_t unknown?
« on: October 09, 2013, 07:45:51 pm »
I think it means gcc can't find the struct, thus nor its size.

Isn't usb_device_request_t a typedef already ? (so you don't have to write "struct usb_device_request_t", but rather just "usb_device_request_t" ?)

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Lua / Re: TI-Nspire CX 2013 Back-To-School Running OS 3.2.4.1237
« on: October 08, 2013, 04:11:02 am »
In fact, gc:setAlpha was never official and was removed in 3.2. (apilevel 2.0)

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News / Re: Scheduled downtime (again)
« on: October 07, 2013, 06:42:19 pm »
erf, that sucks :( (but at least you know ...)

(Also, is there a particular reason for not having a proper dedicated server from a hosting company ? For example, TI-Planet uses Online)

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General Calculator Help / Re: Installing CAS on TI-Nspire CX Non-CAS
« on: October 07, 2013, 02:18:26 am »
We can't know exactly how many people have enjoyed native coding on their Nspire (CX), but I posted that a little while ago, here :
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Oh and, on our (TI-Planet) part, Ndless 3.1, launched in late January 2012, reached 40k downloads a few days ago (or was it yesterday ?) and is the most downloaded file every week I believe (not counting exam stuff when it's exam time, though), and is the 1st overall (again not counting the exam stuff). Approx 71 times / day , 2100 / month.

If you're talking about specific nLaunch statistics, well, around 1000 times on TI-Planet least. (both classic and cx)

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Ah, yeah, the hosted one has to be updated - but at least on my comp it asked if I wanted to update, so it's not too bad.

Anyway, I never had any issue with emulator detection :o

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