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« on: May 23, 2013, 04:34:25 pm »
I would like to throw in a very awesome saying I leant today:
The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. Goes for both the existence of God and evolution.
I don't know what you mean by mentioning evolution. I will repeat once more that evolution has tons of evidence.That saying does not really work too well. I agree that lack of evidence doesn't automatically make one false, but in no way does it suggest that something is true. There no evidence that flying spaghetti monsters exist. But they probably don't. "there's no more scientific basis for intelligent design than there is for the idea an omniscient creature made of pasta created the universe"
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« on: May 22, 2013, 09:20:03 pm »
Hmm... so if God has always existed and always will exist, there must be some point in time where he decided to make a universe. So, sometime 13.7 billion years in the past, he decided to make a universe. After that, he decided to wait until 4.6 billion years ago before creating the earth. Then he continued to wait until 1 billion years ago, where muticellular life began. Then, once again, he waited until 200,000 years ago to for life to evolve into homo sapiens. So humans have not existed for pretty much 99.999% of cosmic history. If God's goal was to create human life, then he was embarrassingly inefficient at it. Unless someone denies that these dates are actually correct (which I assume will happen  ). Also with humans having a soul. So it seems like some suggest that only humans have a soul (correct me if I'm wrong) But if that's so, that leaves a problem. So, humans very gradually evolved into what they are now from their apelike ancestors over millions of years. There is no dividing line between not human and human; the transition was a very gradual one. So was there some point where God decided that we were far enough evolved to start inserting (for lack of a better word) souls into us? How would that work?
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« on: May 21, 2013, 10:14:52 pm »
Including mobile ones? 
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« on: May 21, 2013, 09:20:29 pm »
There is very little, almost no evidence for evolution, and most of the published "evidence" is either fake or turns out to be something totally different than what they and not support the theory of evolution at all (or in some cases, actually refute it). On the other hand, there is overwhelming evidence for creation and God, which isn't fake, and has not been proven to be something else.
Quite the opposite. If there was no evidence for evolution, scientists wouldn't believe it. But there is, and that's why nearly every scientist accepts it. I haven't seen any evidence for God that has really surprised me. Also, if there is a God, then there is proof that he is a Christian God. He has to be omnipotent, He has to be all-merciful, and He has to be all-Good. Nothing good can come from an evil creator.
"It must be a Christian god, because the God must be all-good and all merciful." (Ignoring the enormous amount of suffering and misery in this world) So does that mean every other religion believes that their god is evil? (edit: somewhat ninja'd )
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« on: May 21, 2013, 09:00:40 pm »
Just because our human minds cannot understand the existence of God does not mean he does not exist.
This isn't really an argument. It might not necessarily mean that he doesn't exist, but it certainly doesn't mean he does exist. Somehow believing in no God is a religion too, since you have no proof he doesn't exist. (Although evolution is an attempt).
Not really. Similar to what I said above, if you can't prove he doesn't exist, it doesn't mean that he automatically does. What if I say that there is an invisible pegasus in my closet. You can't prove that there isn't one in my closet, but you probably still don't believe me. Also, it seems that religious people tend to generate excuses to dismissively get rid of any challenges. For example "How was God created?" "He wasn't. End of story."
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« on: May 21, 2013, 05:16:55 pm »
In order for me to believe something, I require evidence; that's just how my mind works.
I would not say that evolution and Christianity are equal in that they both are believed in by faith. Evolution is not blind faith; there is massive support and evidence for it.
Fine, evolution is a theory, but people often misinterpret "theory" for just a guess. A scientific theory actually very comprehensive and is tested and confirmed repeatedly. There is tons of evidence for evolution that can be seen in both living and dead creatures.
Also, theists frequently say that there must be a first cause to start everything, so therefore it must be God.
Even if there is some supernatural creator to set the universe in motion, how do you know that it is the Christian god? It could be any other supernatural being.
I also find that this is somewhat saying, "Science doesn't know, therefore God."
If we don't know something, it isn't very reasonable to conclude that it must be because of God. I'd instead rather search harder and attempt to find an explanation that can actually be supported.
Even if an explanation can never be found by science, I'd rather leave that gap of knowledge empty as opposed to filling it with religion
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« on: May 20, 2013, 10:03:37 pm »
His argument seems to deal greatly with a "first cause" or something to set the universe and life into motion. So it seems like he used God as the first cause... but then what created that god? Even if we ignore the fact that it contradicts his rule that everything must have been set into motion by something else, why is this "first mover" necessarily going to be God? I actually picked up a book somewhat relating to this. Lawrence Krauss's book "A Universe from Nothing." It apparently addresses how the universe could arise from nothing naturally. I dunno how he's going to do it, but it looks interesting 
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« on: May 20, 2013, 09:24:05 pm »
5198: Why not 90 000 or 900 00 or 90000 or 9000 0?
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« on: May 20, 2013, 07:37:12 pm »
Without meaning to provoke any big religious debates, can you show me those 5 proofs? I'm still very open to any evidence for a god. To think that we all came from air that formed would be amazing too, though equally untrue.
Hm? Not sure what you mean by this
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« on: May 20, 2013, 06:59:00 pm »
Whatever I say here, I can't be completely sure of; nobody can be absolutely sure of his beliefs with these kind of questions. I think that the human mind is purely material, there is no kind of "purpose" to the universe or the human race, and there is nothing beyond death. And how this universe got here, is one of the greatest questions... What made the universe come into existence? If it one believes that it is by a creator of some kind, how did he come into existence? Regardless of whether or not humanity has a purpose... To think that every one of us is descended from basic cells that fortunately happened to form on a small planet, around an average star, on the edge of a normal galaxy is astonishing. And if you look at yourself, all the matter in your body can be traced back to billions of years ago, where a star at the end of its life spewed its guts out into space that eventually came to form you. You are literally comprised of those stars. It's all quite amazing
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« on: May 18, 2013, 06:11:21 pm »
2:29 d-d-d-d-d-d...d-d-d-d-d-d...DDAAAYYUUMMM! That was pretty funny
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« on: May 16, 2013, 06:16:14 pm »
Well, THAT was an unexpected turn.
Is that an actual advertisement for the school? 
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« on: May 14, 2013, 09:57:20 pm »
Well, guess who's having nightmares tonight
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« on: May 14, 2013, 09:34:41 pm »
Inspired by Dapianokid, I started learning Rachmaninoff's Elegie 
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« on: May 09, 2013, 09:55:43 pm »
C++? I thought minecraft was in Java
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