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Re: My beta hack
« Reply #75 on: April 23, 2010, 07:03:11 am »
yep your just failing epically. I have done this in 1 shot, you just need all the momentum you can get.
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Re: My beta hack
« Reply #76 on: April 23, 2010, 09:43:13 am »
Let's try to remain respectful, though. Some people have skills at different place than others. I myself had an hard time getting pass the coins x.x
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Re: My beta hack
« Reply #77 on: April 23, 2010, 12:26:54 pm »
I'll be honest, here. What's the point of a SMW ROM hack that's practically impossible for people who aren't absolutely skilled or use TAS tools? Furthermore, don't we already have enough hacks like that? (Kaizo Mario, Kusotare Mario, Mario's Masochistic Mission, etc)

I'm not trying to bash you or your hack. I'm just kind of sad honestly. I like SMW ROM hacks but it just.... it makes me sad when people choose to go the Kaizo route instead of making a beautiful and amazing hack like The Elemental Star.

But eh, that's just me. I can just either not play it or go insane trying to :P
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Re: My beta hack
« Reply #78 on: April 23, 2010, 03:39:05 pm »
Ok.. let me tell you something about Kaizo hacks. I was trying to be original with my own idea and I barely even know who/what kaizo even is. If I barely know that kaizo is a what and not a who, there is no way I can be able to copy the difficulty on the level. I also thought that the level wouldn't be that hard in difficulty, but I guess I should make it a little bit easier.
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Re: My beta hack
« Reply #79 on: April 23, 2010, 04:21:44 pm »
You are being original with your ideas. I mean, spin-jumping across coins is something I've never even heard of or seen before. That's definitely original as far as I can tell.

I wasn't trying to imply you were trying to copy Kaizo or Kusotare. I was trying to get at that it seemed like you were going for a game that's purposefully too hard for the average joe (which I consider myself to be an accurate representative of in terms of playing ROM hacks).

Quote from: Snake X on April 23, 2010, 07:03:11 am
yep your just failing epically. I have done this in 1 shot, you just need all the momentum you can get.
This quote is what mislead me to believe this. I mean, to me, it sounded like you were saying "well, it's your fault you suck too much to beat this ROM hack and I'm not gonna do anything to make it better" which is, in my opinion, a very Kaizo way of thinking when making a ROM hack.

Now that you said you weren't intending to do that, I'd like to apologize for my previous post and for being a jerk about it.
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Re: My beta hack
« Reply #80 on: April 23, 2010, 04:58:23 pm »
To be fair, I think this hack is still far from being Kaizo style. I think it is fine if someone wants to make an hard hack. As TsukasaZX said there are many that are already available, but your hack difficulty is far less extreme than what I've seen on Youtube. In fact, if you take the SMB1 hack Super Mario Forever/Frustration, I think it won't even match some SMW hacks I saw on Youtube. At least, Snake X hack and the SMB frustration one won't require frame-by-frame advance TASing to beat them. I could get through the coins in 20% speed. Sure it's still TAS'ed, but not to the extents of what you see on http://www.tasvideos.org. I even could get through a bunch of the coins without TAS'ing, once. It's just very very hard, but relatively doable if you're extremly good.

Hacks for everyone, that is. Some beautiful hacks that are medium difficulty, some easy ones, some hacks using the default chipsets, some hard ones and some hacks designed specifically to be TAS'ed.

I think the current level difficulty should remain when it comes to the coins, except maybe have an easier level as stage 1?

Anyway due to Omnimaga standards, I had to rate down your first post (like I did with Snake_X earlier post) and rate up the second one (@TsukasaZX), since the tone of the first one seemed a bit rude to me, but then you apologised in the second one. We have to remember to not try to discourage project authors from working on their games and that some project authors may have different goals in mind. It's like me with my F-Zero hack that has no track in one of the course: this course was meant to be extremly hard and require a speed code so you can try to fly through the entire race with barely seeing the guides. It is possible without TAS'ing but it takes several tries. It can be hard to TAS anyway because the only N64 emu that has real TAS support lacks any Gameshark/Action-Replay support
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Re: My beta hack
« Reply #81 on: April 26, 2010, 05:45:25 pm »
alllrighty, well I am pretty much in the final stages and you should expect a final realease sometime this week!   ;D
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Re: My beta hack
« Reply #82 on: April 26, 2010, 09:47:23 pm »
That is totally awesome :) You have been doing a really great job with this, and i cant wait for the final release!
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Re: My beta hack
« Reply #83 on: April 26, 2010, 10:39:19 pm »
Hmm...I wonder if I will be good enough to play it...I'm not so good at smw. Much better at hedgewars and Worms

If what's posted is true, it sounds great! not super hard like some, but not super easy either!
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Re: My beta hack
« Reply #84 on: April 26, 2010, 11:35:13 pm »
Nice to hear, can't wait for new version!
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Re: My beta hack
« Reply #85 on: April 27, 2010, 05:21:15 pm »
oh yeah, it's going to be a challenge.

(mostly for me because I have to play it 50 times to get all the errors.)
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Re: My beta hack
« Reply #86 on: April 27, 2010, 11:03:36 pm »
yeah x.x that's one hard part of testing x.x

You could maybe TAS it but then you won't see if it's doable without TAS'ing lol. One trick you could do is maybe play it at 25% or 30% speed so it's not like real tool-assisting, but still gives you an idea of how hard it would be for someone who has good reflexes
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Re: My beta hack
« Reply #87 on: April 28, 2010, 04:39:12 pm »
For me, slowing them down is actually harder than doing it normally. Also, I don't think you can expect a release this week.. I am finding an awful lot of things that have just added up every time I go through the beta, but who knows...
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Re: My beta hack
« Reply #88 on: April 28, 2010, 05:33:29 pm »
Do you mean bugs and glitches? I hope not x.x
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Re: My beta hack
« Reply #89 on: April 30, 2010, 07:03:36 am »
yeah, bugs and glitches that need to be solved. I am (SOOOOOOOOOOO) close to being done though.
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