Author Topic: 'Oscars'-like Awards (Read 18743 times)

Munchor · « **on:** November 21, 2010, 03:09:32 pm »

Hey everyone, I'd like to tell you about my idea:

I know about POTY, but I think that we could have something bigger with some more awards.

I would suggeste:

POTY;
Best Game/Program Graphics;
Most helpful programmer in the forum;
Revelation Programmer of the year.

Okay, these are just 4, we could have more but I can only remember this ones.

I think it would be sweet to implement them this year

About the judge... Hum... Admnistrators?

Well, please tell me what'ya think!

DJ Omnimaga · « **Reply #1 on:** November 21, 2010, 03:19:09 pm »

Hmm... most helpful member/programmer of the year sounds good. MaxCoderz used to have this. I wonder how we would nominate them, though. A poll with 600+ choice would be tedious to make.

POTY is something we considered, though, if Ticalc.org ever got slow again on features. http://ourl.ca/6253

Munchor · « **Reply #2 on:** November 21, 2010, 03:21:21 pm »

Yes, here's what I think is best:

A judge of 5 nomitaded by you DJ, chooses 4 persons for each prize and then a poll to decide the winner from each group of 4

EDIT: 666th post! HOW EVIL

DJ Omnimaga · « **Reply #3 on:** November 21, 2010, 03:23:10 pm »

Ah ok. It would be hard to choose, though. X.x There are just so many good forum contributors.

jnesselr · « **Reply #4 on:** November 21, 2010, 03:25:09 pm »

I don't like it. I see no point in doing something like this. I really don't like the POTY awards, though, either. The way I see it, a feature is nice, but to say one program is considered better than the others should only be done as a competition. I'm usually a very competitive person, but I see no point if my name is up to be helpful or not. Sure, it might make people more helpful, but at what price? I could become the most helpful person in the world, giving pointless posts just to sound helpful and try and win the award.

Basically, the way I think about it, is that rewarding a great program is one thing, because it is a great program. But when you say one program or person is better/more helpful than another, it causes many repercussions. I think it would be great to win a POTY. But that should not be my goal, and I think that people might make the "helpful award" their goal. Just my two cents, though.

DJ Omnimaga · « **Reply #5 on:** November 21, 2010, 03:38:25 pm »

I don't know. I think it's fun to have some competition sometimes. It's not meant to bash other programs. We all know that when they are featured it means they're extremly notable. POTY just shows the one that was appreciated the most in overall. Notice how no prizes are won anyway.

That said, I'm not as much a fan of the member awards, though, because it will be way too hard to manage. We did it in 2007 ( see http://www.omnimaga.org/index.php?action=articles;sa=view;article=6 and http://www.omnimaga.org/index.php?action=articles;sa=view;article=7 ) and I feel that people receiving no votes or very few might take it personal. Sure, someone would not mind if he came at 2nd place, but there still remains the issues with the ones at the bottom of the pile.

If we do awards, I think it might be best to stick to programming contests or POTY-like awards. If ticalc.org continues being active and won't keep missing features like in September and October, we won't be doing the POTY, though.

Michael_Lee · « **Reply #6 on:** November 21, 2010, 04:38:44 pm »

I like the idea of having best graphics/programs, etc, but poty wouldn't be a good idea if ticalc is doing it - I think we should have more different categories to distinguish the two)
(Sudden ideas: most obfuscated/bizarrely written program (that still functions without bugs) and best plotline (for RPGs).

I think trying to nominate the most helpful person would be a bit complicated to do. With so many forum members, it would be tricky to carry out in a manner that is both fair and won't unduly offend anyone. I think that the respect system we have in place is a good (if rough) indicator as to people who are helpful. Of course, if somebody got a really clever idea and managed to carry this out right, it could be fun.

Not sure what 'revelation programmer' means.

DJ Omnimaga · « **Reply #7 on:** November 21, 2010, 04:44:56 pm »

Well, the only reason we would have a POTY is if Ticalc.org started doing like in late 2006 until late 2008 and quitted featuring almost anything. This seemed to start happening a few times again this year, but now it still seems fine again.

A POTY in Omnimaga would only occur as an alternative to ticalc.org if the ticalc.org one began to decay. It would include games and tools only, though, since Omni is game-related, but it would also include stuff that was unfairly ignored by ticalc.org. In some ways, this competition could maybe convince ticalc.org to get their act together and get more staff to feature stuff if their current staff ever became too busy.

I kinda like the idea of having some sort of award system based on gameplay, graphics, replay value and that stuff, kinda like oscars, though.

As for revelation programmers, I think he means new members who improved considerably over the year.

Munchor · « **Reply #8 on:** November 22, 2010, 08:30:39 am »

The best plotline looks really cool.

Okay, maybe not POTY; we could change its name to "Overall best program"?

We could have Best Platformer, Best RPG, Best Racer, Most dwnladed...

Well, a bunch of them could be made.

DJ, if this is going ahead, I think it should be done quickly :S

DJ Omnimaga · « **Reply #9 on:** November 22, 2010, 01:29:59 pm »

If we do this, I think I'll wait until Jan 1st, else it will be weird if it starts at the very end of this year. Also I may need some help because I am a bit busier now.

ASHBAD_ALVIN · « **Reply #10 on:** November 22, 2010, 01:32:47 pm »

POTYs are nice, but in previous experiences people turn out hatin the winner cuz he beat them all. Also, best contributer is gonna be a popularity contest for sure.

I say we have a competition on its own that determines the year's best award.

DJ Omnimaga · « **Reply #11 on:** November 22, 2010, 01:42:47 pm »

I do not recall seeing people jumping on the winner for winning before.

I think that to reduce such risks or popularity contest risks, we should maybe have some sort of end of the year competition where people submit a link to their game, the rule being that it must have been made before the end of the year, and once submissions closes, we start a poll to determine a winner. The problem, though, would be to detect if an entry for the year after is just a slightly modified version of a previous one.

That said, if nobody can agree with what shall be done and too many people think a POTY/award thing is not a good idea, then we might as well just stick to the ticalc.org, hoping they won't do like from late 2006 to mid 2009. Here I am refering to how it took half a decade for xLIB, Contra and Robot Wars to get featured.

ASHBAD_ALVIN · « **Reply #12 on:** November 22, 2010, 01:44:55 pm »

Not in calc programming DJ, in my C++ experience though.

Well, if the TI community respects the winners, then screw ticalc and let's do an omni POTY, it's plain anyways and they don't have forums.

DJ Omnimaga · « **Reply #13 on:** November 22, 2010, 01:55:17 pm »

I like ticalc.org personally. Their layout must be well done considering they still got lots of visitors until about 2007. Slashdot layout is simple, yet they still get thousands of users online at once. I think just some parts of the site would need a redesign. Examples would be adding download stats to the file list on author profiles, an upload link on every file archive page, defaulting to that location when uploading (in the drop down menu), search engine searching through more stuff and at least one or two new staff to help the current ones on news editing and reviews while there are many files uploaded.

Also, they have forums, but they're so hard to browse that nobody uses them anymore.

http://www.ticalc.org/programming/ideas/
http://www.ticalc.org/programming/upcoming/

DJ Omnimaga · « **Reply #14 on:** November 22, 2010, 02:16:22 pm »

Sorry but I had to rate down that post. I take offense to that because I have made BASIC grayscale games before and spent a lot of time on them. Just because a game is in grayscale doesn't necessarly makes it more bad than a 3D game. If the 3D game offers only one stage and is nearly unplayable because graphics are horrible, people are gonna look for the overall. And saying basic newbies would do that is generalizing. I think you should stop bashing entire group of users because it makes it sounds like you hate basic programmers.

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