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Re: General Decrease in Omnimaga Activity - What can we do?
« Reply #270 on: January 06, 2013, 08:12:30 pm »
what, What, WHAT, I DIDN'T GO NUTS WHAAAAAAAAA
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It is not only me, I only post if others post, so, others have posted more on omnimaga for some reason :P

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Re: General Decrease in Omnimaga Activity - What can we do?
« Reply #271 on: January 06, 2013, 10:58:54 pm »
On the long run now it still seems to be increasing, the activity! *yay*
What did happen? Was it portal and omnirpg combined that brought many members back to the forums?
Yeah I noticed lately, especially the last 2 months (except Christmas holidays) where it jumped by 1000 one month. Most likely the 84 Plus Color Silver Edition, Portal and a bunch of the other big projects that are coming out. Christmas holidays seems to have slowed activity down a bit compared to Early December, though.

Maybe we should post about nDoom CX on 4chan/b/ and then start a religion debate thread once traffic increased. That will certainly bring more activity :trollface:

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« Last Edit: January 07, 2013, 10:16:32 pm by DJ_O »

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Re: General Decrease in Omnimaga Activity - What can we do?
« Reply #272 on: February 01, 2013, 10:37:09 pm »
nuuuuuuuu, we'r losing activity again D:

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Re: General Decrease in Omnimaga Activity - What can we do?
« Reply #273 on: February 01, 2013, 10:39:04 pm »
nuuu!
At least we have (int)pi*100 new registrations in January :P
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Re: General Decrease in Omnimaga Activity - What can we do?
« Reply #274 on: February 01, 2013, 10:49:04 pm »
Yeah the activity boost a few months ago seemed kinda short-lived. D: (although in general ATM it's better than last Summer and early Fall). Just hoping it remains up like this or goes higher again. We might need a bunch of dedicated 84PCSE games coders, though, not 2 causal coders who will leave 2 months after starting. It would kinda suck if Omnimaga was entirely drained from its 84 Color Silver Edition activity by other sites due to lack of interest here, like what happened with the PRIZM. Even TI-BASIC coders would help as long as it's game-related. (of course discoveries help too tho)
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Re: General Decrease in Omnimaga Activity - What can we do?
« Reply #275 on: March 01, 2013, 11:52:23 pm »
Why do I have to bring the bad news? D:

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Re: General Decrease in Omnimaga Activity - What can we do?
« Reply #276 on: March 02, 2013, 01:03:15 am »
Indeed. It seems like there's a general lack of Interest from some of the users lately. I think the main issue though is weekends. One weekend out of two I work and have little time to post here and it seems like others disappear at the same time. The good news is that most years Jan/Feb is quieter than Nov/Dec but if March is worse then imagine how July will be x.x. It seems like the community in general is dying down though, hence why we need some people here to buy a 84+CSE and Axe84C or something to give things a kickstart again.

Also, the post notifier being down all the time doesn't help either, because activity goes down by half, if not more, when this happens.

Btw the Facebook topic notifier is down too.

I'm not expecting more than 2000 posts per month next summer actually, and in 2014 we'll prbly back in the 3 digit numbers again for a few years like in 2008-09 x.x
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Re: General Decrease in Omnimaga Activity - What can we do?
« Reply #277 on: March 02, 2013, 04:03:04 am »
You check the number of posts.
Maybe you should check the number of visits/hits too.

Because even if very few people comment a news/topic, it's still important if many people read it.


And indeed, pageviews is greater in february than in january.
No wonder with the exclusive TI-84+CSE news we shared ;)
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Re: General Decrease in Omnimaga Activity - What can we do?
« Reply #278 on: March 02, 2013, 04:25:00 am »
Because a lot of the programmers that started 4 years ago have mastered their programming language there aren't a lot of questions asked in their respective boards. Another problem is that a lot of projects lose interest and the programmer decides to do something else. As a result a lot of cool projects including some of mine died in early stages. Look at the community projects. How many of those are  finished?
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Re: General Decrease in Omnimaga Activity - What can we do?
« Reply #279 on: March 02, 2013, 04:48:31 am »
YEah true although it was kinda higher last year IIRC (although it might be due to CloudFlare blocking most bots). One issue might be that due to most questions having been answered already to newbies, there's less discussion to be done for help. Everything is already available to read for newbies. Programming-wise, the novelty of Axe weared off, as did the TI-84 Plus novelty 2-3 years after the 84+ came out, along with ASM libs, and of course Ndless.

Also I think the Nspire platform is almost dead now, game programming-wise. I think that the Nspire is facing the 4 following problems:

-Most calculator programmers love to push limited hardware to their max potential. The TI-Nspire isn't limited enough.
-The rest would rather do computer programming
-The constant danger of seeing Ndless blocked on the latest OS again and again
-A bunch of people prefer user interfaces like on the TI-83 Plus, Casio PRIZM or TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition.

As for low project activity, it's probably due to the following:

-People started projects that are too big for them, then newer coders finally realized that they should avoid doing such mistake, so they wait
-People saw too many great projects die, so they are less interested to reply to active ones, since they think it will be dead in a few months.

And I think that some people are relying too much on myself to keep Omni afloat. Omni suddenly have a large activity outburst with several 100+ post days close to 200, then as soon as I start my 6 days in a row work schedule, the site slowly dies again (usually on weekends). I still even receive constant admin requests even though I am not admin anymore since 2011. People need to realize that the key to Omni survival is in their hands too and that the site should not be dependent on 1 person. It takes that part of the community too. I'm not as healthy (physically) as I was until 2010 so I can't really pull 1500+ posts months like I used to.

And I agree on the projects. People need to learn to backup more and manage their time better instead of spending most of their time playing Minecraft and flooding humor and jokes with duplicate image/botswana threads. Not only projects die, but when that many do it makes other people even less interested in replying to them or helping out, since they know it will die in a few months. But again, this is a problem everywhere on the Internet with freeware games. It's just worse with calculators since a TI programming "career" usually lasts less than 1 year.
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Re: General Decrease in Omnimaga Activity - What can we do?
« Reply #280 on: March 02, 2013, 04:53:52 am »
Axe C will definitely be a reason for many to get the new color 84+ SE model. There will be a lot of new games coming out and I can't wait to see some amazing colorful games. I hope people will take full advantage of the color capabilities and the higher resolution of the calculator.

Why do I have to bring the bad news? D:

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Re: General Decrease in Omnimaga Activity - What can we do?
« Reply #281 on: March 02, 2013, 04:57:12 am »
I just hope that people are not scared too much of the slow vertical scrolling. Of course if the program editor is really bad for editing large code then this platform might not be as popular for on-calc programmers (one extra reason to make an on-calc IDE!) but that platform will be fun to code and challenge and it will be interesting to see what shortcuts people use to get around limitations, like what happened with the 6 MHz TI-83+ back in the days. Heck, if people still code for the 2 MHz TI-81, then why wouldn't we with the 84+CSE?

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Re: General Decrease in Omnimaga Activity - What can we do?
« Reply #282 on: March 02, 2013, 05:04:39 am »
I'm just disappointed in TI that they decided to go with shit hardware again while better cpu specs cost 20ct more. Nonetheless for most of us the challenge of programming for minimalistic hardware got us in the scene, so I hope the new color model will get more students into calculator programming. We should definitely promote programming for calculators beyond the boundaries of the community. I did a lot of basic programming before I found out about omnimaga and AXE. I was the only one in my year that knew how to program for the 84+ (and everyone wanted me to make a wireless chat program of course :P) If only there was a way to spread the word directly to the students. How about social media? How about a viral video?

Edit: Some communities like atariage have a shop in which you can buy homebrews and hardware for your retro consoles/computers. What about an omnimaga shop with kits for developing calculator peripherals. There are a couple of active hardware fanatics in the community and I'd like to lure some people from the arduino forums over to our community.
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Re: General Decrease in Omnimaga Activity - What can we do?
« Reply #283 on: March 02, 2013, 09:57:58 am »
For me, I just have a lot of work and stuff to do during the week, so I don't really get a chance to get on during the week.  I'd probably be a bit more active during the weekends. 

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Re: General Decrease in Omnimaga Activity - What can we do?
« Reply #284 on: March 02, 2013, 10:32:03 am »
As long as the sum of the activity is high it doesn't matter which day of the week you're active. Other people are more active on another day and thus we have an evenly distributed amount of activity. Or do we...
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