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Re: General Decrease in Omnimaga Activity - What can we do?
« Reply #180 on: October 19, 2012, 05:29:28 pm »
A couple of things:

Post Notifier IRC Bot: I really would like someone with experience in Python and IRC protocol to help me with this! The only reason that it disconnects is due to PING timeouts... and not being able to recognize it. :P Otherwise, it works pretty well! (The other thing I would like to implement is to store the last post timestamp, and display all the posts after it in case of a bot restart so no new posts are missed.)

OmnomIRC: I have a server that can host the bot. (mc.withg.org) I can probably do this on a temporary basis, but I would appreciate donations. (There's a Minecraft server on that too :P)

TI-8x emulator: If you talk to Buckeye/Deep Thought, there's WebWabbitemu that might be interesting to use. :)
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Re: General Decrease in Omnimaga Activity - What can we do?
« Reply #181 on: October 19, 2012, 05:56:26 pm »
Yeah Netham's bots had the same issues. In one occasion, though, the bot actually remained online and just stopped working. ???

As for OmnomIRC being on a less stable server, I guess if its uptime is like 70% or there is intermittent lag it should do the job on a temporarily basis, but only as long as it doesn't affect Omnimaga directly (eg if Omnom lags and prevents the rest of the page from loading).

And I didn't know about WebWabbitemu. O.O Is there a topic about this?

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Re: General Decrease in Omnimaga Activity - What can we do?
« Reply #182 on: October 19, 2012, 05:58:02 pm »
And I didn't know about WebWabbitemu. O.O Is there a topic about this?
It's a secret and non-public project, so nope. :P
It's being worked on from time to time - it so far can run a calculator ROM, but of course we're planning for more features in the future :)
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Re: General Decrease in Omnimaga Activity - What can we do?
« Reply #183 on: October 19, 2012, 06:39:11 pm »
Will there be an option to require people's own ROM's and preferably not host any copy, even temporary, on the server?

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Re: General Decrease in Omnimaga Activity - What can we do?
« Reply #184 on: October 19, 2012, 06:47:25 pm »
Will there be an option to require people's own ROM's and preferably not host any copy, even temporary, on the server?
ROMs are ALWAYS stored on the user's computer via HTML5 LocalStorage (or whatever it's called), just like jusTIfied. The only things that may ever get uploaded are backups of calculator state, and programs/apps the person is developing.
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Re: General Decrease in Omnimaga Activity - What can we do?
« Reply #185 on: October 19, 2012, 06:54:52 pm »
Ok good to hear. :)

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Re: General Decrease in Omnimaga Activity - What can we do?
« Reply #186 on: October 20, 2012, 02:06:07 am »
Maybe omnomirc can be hosted on 57o9 or withg?

and to ping timeout: Just make it reconnect if it doesn't get a ping in like 10 minuets

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Re: General Decrease in Omnimaga Activity - What can we do?
« Reply #187 on: October 20, 2012, 02:41:48 am »
Isn't witgh some $1-5/month VPS, though?

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Re: General Decrease in Omnimaga Activity - What can we do?
« Reply #188 on: October 20, 2012, 04:40:50 am »
Isn't witgh some $1-5/month VPS, though?
Withg has 3 different servers. There is little downtime and the main server as well as the second backup server have pretty good specs. The first backup server is a little lacking in terms of specs, but it's meant for nothing other then backup. Backup2 hosts a minecraft server among other things.
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Re: General Decrease in Omnimaga Activity - What can we do?
« Reply #189 on: October 20, 2012, 04:48:06 am »
Ah ok I see, thanks for the info. I remember it started on a rather cheap server on Hostfolks before quickly moving to another with similar specs, but more stable.

OmnomIRC takes around 450 gigabytes of RAM though I think. :P
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Re: General Decrease in Omnimaga Activity - What can we do?
« Reply #190 on: October 21, 2012, 03:35:28 am »
It seems I haven't posted here, but I (and others)do check this topic. There are definetley some good ideas here, and it would be nice if we could implement some of them IMO.

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Re: General Decrease in Omnimaga Activity - What can we do?
« Reply #191 on: October 21, 2012, 06:23:21 am »
OmnomIRC takes around 450 gigabytes of RAM though I think. :P
Indeed that's quite a lot :D
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Re: General Decrease in Omnimaga Activity - What can we do?
« Reply #192 on: October 21, 2012, 08:40:31 am »
OmnomIRC takes around 450 gigabytes of RAM though I think. :P

Er... I was going to propose you running it on tiplanet.org, but... just forget it :P
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Re: General Decrease in Omnimaga Activity - What can we do?
« Reply #193 on: October 21, 2012, 08:48:09 am »
(he means 450Mo I believe. But from what Jim told, it's much more (actually more cpu intensive -load- etc.))
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Re: General Decrease in Omnimaga Activity - What can we do?
« Reply #194 on: October 21, 2012, 10:56:00 am »
I really meant 450 GB but I was kidding about how steep the requirements to run OmnomIRC are. :P

Actually I have no clue what they are, but from memory, after Netham45 upgraded Omnimaga hosting on Amazon before OmnomIRC moved to Jimbauwens server, he had 2 GB of RAM and made Omni database use RAM instead of the hard drive. However whatever he had was nowhere close enough to run OmnomIRC. And a reason why Jim decided to drop OmnomIRC permanently from his server even after he repairs it was that it was too demanding on resources. And no, running it on TI-Planet is a bad idea: notice also how Omnimaga never ever topped March activity level again since our hosting issues in April.

That said, if THAT version of OmnomIRC took that many resources, I can't imagine how much was required for version 1.0... O.O