Author Topic: New Signature Limitations (Read 18761 times)

Eeems · « **on:** July 26, 2013, 03:23:24 pm »

In light of how ridiculously large some peoples signatures are becoming the admins have decided to start enforcing limits on the size and content of a signature.

Signatures will not be larger then 800x200 pixels in size.
They will not have animated images of over 15 frames
Animated images must not be too "loud"
Signatures will not contain spoiler tags

We would also like to request that people only have relevant content in their signatures.

The list is not formally in the rules yet, but we will be enforcing them as such. A more definite version of the rules will be added to the rules page soon.

Juju · « **Reply #1 on:** July 26, 2013, 03:26:55 pm »

But spoiler tags are useful!

Sorunome · « **Reply #2 on:** July 26, 2013, 03:28:02 pm »

^agreed. Maybe as long as there is text-only in spoiler tags to prevent tons of image loading in the bg?

DJ Omnimaga · « **Reply #3 on:** July 26, 2013, 03:33:06 pm »

By relevant content, does it means that anything such as MLP, Youtube and Facebook links will no longer be allowed at all or is it just some sort of recommendation? Some links in my sig leads to various music places of mine and some members might have personal sites like juju with julosoft.

As for Spoiler I didn't mind 1 spoiler but the issue is that they are used to circumvent the overly large signature height that would result otherwise. Also, another issue is that some spoilers were misused then actually took more space than their content, eg stuff like this:

Quote

THE GAME

Compared to the much larger

Quote

Spoiler For Spoiler:
THE GAME

Notice, for example, how many images, links and content I could cram in my signature, yet it's still small? Using spoilers to hide the 2nd line of text would actually make my sig increase in height. And if I really want to say THE GAME I can put it right next to the Bandcamp, Reuben or Illusiat banners and it won't even take an extra line of text.

There should be a rule on large avatars as well, though, because when someone converts the entire rickroll video (or that old classic Flash animation showing a stick guy having a rage fit) in GIF then use it as his avatar, some members use 10% of their monthly bandwidth just by loading it.

Juju · « **Reply #4 on:** July 26, 2013, 03:34:25 pm »

Yeah, the implications of that rule should be researched more throughoutly.

Eeems · « **Reply #5 on:** July 26, 2013, 03:37:40 pm »

Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on July 26, 2013, 03:33:06 pm

By relevant content, does it means that anything such as MLP, Youtube and Facebook links will no longer be allowed at all or is it just some sort of recommendation? Some links in my sig leads to various music places of mine and some members might have personal sites like juju with julosoft.

That is a request not a rule. Use your own discretion as to what is relevant or not.

Quote

As for Spoiler I didn't mind 1 spoiler but the issue is that they are used to circumvent the overly large signature height that would result otherwise. Also, another issue is that some spoilers actually took more space than their content, eg stuff like this:

Quote
THE GAME

Compared to the much larger
Quote
Spoiler For Spoiler:
THE GAME

There should be a rule on large avatars as well, though, because when someone converts the entire rickroll video (or that old classic Flash animation showing a stick guy having a rage fit) in GIF then use it as his avatar, some members use 10% of their monthly bandwidth just by loading it.

There is an unwritten rule about the avatars. That is also part of proper netiquette.

XiiDraco · « **Reply #6 on:** July 26, 2013, 03:38:41 pm »

Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on July 26, 2013, 03:33:06 pm

There should be a rule on large avatars as well, though, because when someone converts the entire rickroll video (or that old classic Flash animation showing a stick guy having a rage fit) in GIF then use it as his avatar, some members use 10% of their monthly bandwidth just by loading it.

8 | Yeah, when school is in, I use the library computers (or my laptop, which sucks), to go on omnimaga during my free period ((Online german) usually completed in only a week).
Point being, whenever I use it and I load another page, I'm almost reassured that there is going to be a gif on the page. >_< With my schools internet, I then spend the next 10-20 minutes trying to scroll past the gif.

Spyro543 · « **Reply #7 on:** July 26, 2013, 03:43:17 pm »

In case anyone is wondering this is 800 by 200 pixels:

DJ Omnimaga · « **Reply #8 on:** July 26, 2013, 03:46:13 pm »

Indeed. THe main issue though is that I always found enforcing strict avatar rules very hard when I was admin, because as soon as you delete someone's avatar, there is another one popping up on someone else's account, among the hundreds of members we got. There are just too many accounts to monitor, so the only real way to enforce it is if members cooperate then report a post, saying the avatar is too big in file size, or if a moderator with a slow connection runs into such avatar then he can remove it.

Of course, if it was possible for SMF to check the size of off-site avatars, not just uploaded ones, then it could be handy, but then the user can just use the trick of linking to a small avatar then replacing the off-site image with a much larger one. IIRC the limit for uploaded avatars is 25 or 50 KB.

Quote from: Spyro543 on July 26, 2013, 03:43:17 pm

In case anyone is wondering this is 800 by 200 pixels:

This is an example of disturbing signature. If someone uses that large red pic as their signature, I doubt that it will remain for long.

Just kidding, I know what you mean.

Darl181 · « **Reply #9 on:** July 26, 2013, 03:50:41 pm »

Personally not 100% on the spoiler part, but judging by the past few months I can see where it's coming from.
Looking good

DJ Omnimaga · « **Reply #10 on:** July 26, 2013, 03:58:38 pm »

If I had more time, I would have used a Reuben Quest userbar for much longer. I already had an Illusiat one but it might have just been for the 13th game. I stopped doing so with my music, though, because it took way too many chars and was confusing to edit.

AssemblyBandit · « **Reply #11 on:** July 26, 2013, 04:28:35 pm »

Spoilers are what my signature is made of! I guess I could change it, I still never found out how to make it say 'spoiler for' whatever.

DJ Omnimaga · « **Reply #12 on:** July 26, 2013, 04:30:24 pm »

Due to having Flash material (Youtube), it might be best to replace them with links actually. iOS and Android don't support Flash I think anyway.

EDIT Also note that the new sig rules are far less restrictive than any other calc forum.

I think since 2006 on MaxCoderz and on Cemetech, images can't be higher than 50 pixels in height or something and there were even forums where images used to be disabled entirely. The goal is most likely to ensure that sigs are not as large as posts.

Of course for people who still find the new rules not strict enough, there is always the Disable Signatures option in your control panel.

AssemblyBandit · « **Reply #13 on:** July 26, 2013, 04:47:53 pm »

I like being able to see other peoples blogs, projects, and project updates, but I think 800x200 might be a little overdoing it! My new sig will be something like Darl181's. I really don't need the videos, though they were nice when the apps first came out (I hope).

Scipi · « **Reply #14 on:** July 26, 2013, 04:53:27 pm »

I'm a bit dubious on the Spoiler one, since when used as, say, my signature, it greatly shortens and organizes my sig while still be able to show what I wish to, to those whom are interested.

I think, since due to the nature of these rules one of the things you are trying to do is prevent too distracting of signatures, the dimensions of the signature with all spoilers closed shouldn't exceed the stated dimensions, but the spoilers themselves can exceed when opened. That way, members who are interested in seeing the signature and spoiler are able to do so, while those who are not won't be distracted.

I agree with all the other rules though. I went ahead and removed my "Historical Formations" spoiler under Interests, since it contained several rather large images.

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Eeems

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