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Re: Signatures & ponies
« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2013, 01:48:15 pm »
Also, I removed now the spoilerseption and i'm at less than 500 chars.....
Thanks, but you could have kept the programming language section I guess (aren't we in a programming community ?)
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Re: Signatures & ponies
« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2013, 01:52:18 pm »
Actually your sig looks better now (maybe bring back programming languages and shrink down the pony a little more?). As for spoilers I bet that sometimes they take more space than actual text. If, for example, I put the Reuben and Illusiat sites and my social music network advertising in separate spoilers my sig would grow insanely huge.

As for animated GIFs I think they are fine if they are for example like line ponies sprites in juju's sig, but not if the gif takes like 100+ KB. I think GIFs are fine in avatars if not too large and distracting, though. (Eg Streetwalker's is just at the very limit, IMHO).

512 chars for sigs like I saw on most PhpBB sites would be too restrictive, though, because sometimes people just want to add several links in their sig to advertise their stuff. Eg, his latest projects, his personal site, his Youtube account, or in my case, all my music stores and download places. Links takes a lot of chars because of the URL tags and stuff and to put some emphasis on some I use pics that aren't too large. On certain forums I can't even get close to fitting all of them in my sig, so I am forced to remove several links  such as Myspace, Reverbnation or Twitter. The main issue is what use people make of those chars, though. It's very easy to have an oversized sig in just 100 chars and it's hard to moderate due to how many users there are.

I try to lead the example with a smaller sig but it's 848 chars long O.O
What is the char limit in sigs anyway? I think it was 5000-10000, right? (Maybe 2000 would be better)
You really don't need more than 500 chars to put in your sig.
I mean, you really don't need more than 200 displayed chars (excluding the bbcode ones).

I know that it can fed up some people to delete their entire sig, but they should remember what is the real goal of a sig.
You don't put 10 000 chars of sig in a mail, this is absurd.

The problem is that BBCode itself can take ridiculous amounts of space. For example, the URL tag almost completely depends of the URL length and if you want to display a small text rather than a long URL, then that takes even more space.

It's really a matter of opinion, though. I think that 1000-2000 would be just fine and we have moderators who can remove large sigs if they decide to anyway.

Here is my sig bbcode, btw:

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Re: Signatures & ponies
« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2013, 02:04:13 pm »
Maybe then it would be a restriction on the number of lines (+ 1000 chars limit) like on some forums.
Or simply by giving the example like Eeems sig ;)
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Re: Signatures & ponies
« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2013, 02:21:34 pm »
I think as long as the sig is smaller than an empty post template it should be fine, but even then, there could be something such as a width/height limit rule like I saw elsewhere. Sometimes mod post a box showing the sig dimensions allowed. That's in addition of the char limit, i mean.

But of course Omni was always meant to be a bit more lax when it comes to sigs, avatar and weird humoristic posts, as long as it stays under control, so even if there were stricter rules, it will never get as far as flat out disallowing images/GIFs entirely nor limiting sigs to 2 lines and 200 non-bbc chars.

Also I think one more problem regarding sigs is that some members use extremely slow or unreliable hosting, such as Imageshack and Heliohost. This is annoying because some images just never load and in some browsers, javascript will only load once the entire page is done loading.

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Re: Signatures & ponies
« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2013, 06:21:37 pm »
I can agree that excessive Gifs and spam (at least visible spam) are an issue. Though I can't quite agree with the singling out of MLP as objectionable subject matter.

As far as I see signatures, they're not supposed to be exactly in line with the subject of the forum, but more of a personal space to show things about yourself and interests that you wouldn't be able to put anywhere else in the forums. For instance, anyone who's seen my sig in the last while would see that I'm a bit of a military history buff. That's something I want to show about myself, but the subject matter doesn't fit in with the forum, so the best place to put it is my sig.

It seems to me to be a bit unfair to single out MLP, since I could replace that with something more common, say, Star Wars or Star Trek, and no one would bat an eyelash. Also since there are worse examples of signatures around. For instance, mine had about 8 very large images in a Spoiler showing historical Infantry Formations that I recently removed. But no one ever objected to it, despite it being worse, I would consider, than your first example.

So I really think it would be better to focus on the content of signatures (gifs, videos, large images, etc) rather than the subject matter of that content. Since a Signature is a personal area in nature.

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Re: Re: Signatures & ponies
« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2013, 06:35:08 pm »
Yeah I guess it might be a better idea to replace the topic title to something like Signatures & large pics, else some people who don't read the topic content might think you just want admins to disallow all MLP content on Omni in particular but are fine with oversized sigs and gifs showing Marvel comics. :P

Else it's as bad as that one forum where if you said you planned to buy a TI-Nspire, had one or discussed about the calc in positive ways, you were banned.

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Re: Signatures & ponies
« Reply #21 on: July 27, 2013, 02:03:01 am »
I think the reason why ponies "triggered" that topic (and why Star Wars would have not) is because they use bright colors, so they are really "disturbing".

That being said, ponies are a hobby at the same title as Star Wars (not sure if that sentence is correct). But if you want to put it in your sig, just don't put full-screen gifs. Sorunome's sig is quite ok since ponies are not moving and have a transparent background. But the first example is not because gifs have animated ponies on a colored background.

On the same level, I guess that a static StormTrooper helmet would be okay in a sig, but a gif of a lightsaber battle (with bright colors moving) would not.
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Re: Signatures & ponies
« Reply #22 on: July 27, 2013, 07:59:32 am »
Streetwalker's is just at the very limit, IMHO)
Yeah couple people already complained about that. :P I'll fix that when I get on my computer. ;)

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Re: Signatures & ponies
« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2013, 09:45:50 am »
Is mine okay, or should I shorten it?
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Re: Signatures & ponies
« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2013, 09:54:31 am »
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Re: Signatures & ponies
« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2013, 10:04:19 am »
I didn't read the new rules topic, sorry... I'll change it.
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Re: Signatures & ponies
« Reply #26 on: July 27, 2013, 10:14:20 am »
Is mine okay now? (Ponies are hidden.)
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Re: Signatures & ponies
« Reply #27 on: July 27, 2013, 10:34:00 am »
Spoilers are no longer allowed, but I'm not sure if that is definitive.
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Re: Re: Re: Signatures & ponies
« Reply #28 on: July 27, 2013, 11:51:32 am »
Streetwalker's is just at the very limit, IMHO)
Yeah couple people already complained about that. :P I'll fix that when I get on my computer. ;)
actually with your avatar I think just slowing it down (eg 5 FPS) would be make it fine. That said it depends of how much memory it takes as well though.

Is mine okay now? (Ponies are hidden.)
With a 600+ KB large GIF I would say no.
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Re: Signatures & ponies
« Reply #29 on: August 05, 2013, 11:45:35 pm »
By the way, I wonder if it would be possible for people to not abuse the words "anypony", "somepony" and "nopony" in calc/programming/help topics and preferably non-humoristic ones too? I don't really mind if those words appears in some rare occasions (such as until a few weeks ago), but if you start using them in every sentence like recently, then this causes the same problem as people who use poor spelling: Google translate totally butchers those sentences (making it much harder for our foreign members to dechiper posts). Besides, we prefer that our members try to use good spelling, proper punctuation and grammar if they know how, so I guess it would also be a good idea to not deliberately mispell words either. :P

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English: Anypony who use good grammar gets higher respect from everypony and nopony will look upon somepony for this.
French: Anypony qui utilisent la grammaire devient plus grand respect de everypony et nopony se penchera sur somepony pour cela.

As you know, Google Translate already has some troubles translating stuff properly, but at least in the first sentence, French people can understand. In the 2nd sentence, it sounds more like text from an adult MLP fanfic featuring grammar fetishes.
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