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Site funding and maintenance
« on: March 16, 2011, 01:28:45 am »
Since DJ has officially announced his resignation from omnimaga.org and the larger TI/Casio community, Omnimaga now faces the uncertain question of future funding after the hosting bill of $334.89 USD is due in October. While the remaining administrators will attempt to cover as much of the costs as they are reasonably able, the funds are likely to be insufficient. Therefore, on behalf of the staff and moderators, I have posted this poll for public discussion of solutions to the problem of future Omnimaga funding.

Note: Any form of donations will be accompanied by periodic and transparent publications of Omnimaga's financial records in order to assure donors that their money is going towards what they intended it for rather than into the pockets of those responsible for handling the money.

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Re: Site funding and maintenance
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2011, 01:32:07 am »
We could sell stuff? That would be a great idea.

Also, if we put ads on the website, make sure they are somewhat discrete.
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Re: Site funding and maintenance
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2011, 01:34:02 am »
Ticalc.org has those ads by google that I didn't even notice until I saw the news article.
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Re: Site funding and maintenance
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2011, 01:35:45 am »
@Juju: Added  :)

Also, if fundraising is unable to meet the bill in time, I'm willing to donate everything that remains up to half of the hosting bill in October.
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Re: Site funding and maintenance
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2011, 01:36:42 am »
Weird, I didn't even noticed until Darl181 told me.
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Re: Site funding and maintenance
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2011, 01:37:02 am »
We have kept Omnimaga ad free for a long time. Not only that, but they tend to not draw that much money. I do like Juju's idea of selling stuff. I would totally buy an Omnimaga t-shirt, hat, and calc case. But I would never buy a game because those should always be free.


Edit: add posters and also school supplies to the list. folders, pens, pencils, etc. and could someone make a mock-up of what the t-shirts could look like?
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Re: Site funding and maintenance
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2011, 01:40:23 am »
But would you buy... The Game?  O.O

Sorry, couldn't resist. Back on topic:

How long would sales last, though? Omnimaga.org might not have a large enough community to support it in the long term from T-shirt and calculator sales.
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Re: Site funding and maintenance
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2011, 01:41:57 am »
I would buy an Omni Calc Case :)
Even if ads do not bring in too much money, they are better than nothing at all.  If there are ads, make sure to put them on the search.  I heard that people are more likely to click on those. 
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Re: Site funding and maintenance
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2011, 02:05:48 am »
Papal donations seem the most feasible to me. Adverts in my opinion, are generally annoying and don't generate much revenue.

Cash donations would be ok, but I'm not sure any of us aside from Juju live close enough to go hand DJ some money. :P

Sponsorships... Well, I'm not really sure who would be interested in sponsoring a calculator hobbyist forum (aside from someone already involved in the community that is...).

As far as selling items go, well we would have to decide what to sell, at what markup, and have to setup a system for buying, selling, shipping, and dealing with damaged/defective/lost items. It would take a fair amount of work to say the least.

Just my thoughts anyway.
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Re: Site funding and maintenance
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2011, 02:31:10 am »
Where does DJ tell this? What am I missing?
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Re: Site funding and maintenance
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2011, 02:37:45 am »
Frontpage news. Here's the link though: http://ourl.ca/9664
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Re: Site funding and maintenance
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2011, 02:54:49 am »
Quote from: Art_of_camelot on March 16, 2011, 02:05:48 am
Cash donations would be ok, but I'm not sure any of us aside from Juju live close enough to go hand DJ some money. :P
Well, you can send money via mail. Also, I think DJ is no longer involved with the funding and all.

Also, you have to sell something like 20 items and you're OK for the year. I think it's feasible...

Anyway, I'm sure that we'll get enough funding to keep the website on forever.
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Re: Site funding and maintenance
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2011, 03:02:15 am »
I don't have much cash on hand (I'm 15) but if someone can put up an address I'll send everything I can.

Ads seem like the easiest way to raise money. While I agree that an ad-free Omni has been wonderful, clearly the community is going through some changes. The old standards may not apply anymore, and the number one priority should always be keeping the site up.

Merch might pay for a few months, but I don't think we have high enough user growth that it would be worth sustainIng after the initial rush.

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Re: Site funding and maintenance
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2011, 03:02:36 am »
I'm not too worried, especially with the fact that I'll be getting a job soon ( within the next couple of months ) and I'll pay for it for sure when I do.
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Re: Site funding and maintenance
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2011, 03:09:18 am »
Quote from: juju2143 on March 16, 2011, 02:54:49 am
Quote from: Art_of_camelot on March 16, 2011, 02:05:48 am
Cash donations would be ok, but I'm not sure any of us aside from Juju live close enough to go hand DJ some money. :P
Well, you can send money via mail. Also, I think DJ is no longer involved with the funding and all.

Also, you have to sell something like 20 items and you're OK for the year. I think it's feasible...

Anyway, I'm sure that we'll get enough funding to keep the website on forever.

Funding no, but as far as I can guess he'd still be the one billed. I don't really know how paying for hosting is set up as I've never paid for web hosting myself. If it isn't in a particular person's name I would think the account billed should be able to be changed. Again, I don't have details, and I'm unsure of how DJ intends to handle it.

I was kidding about handing him money in person. :P Sending money through the mail directly can be done, but it isn't that secure IMHO. I suppose a check could be sent though.
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