Omnimaga
Omnimaga => Site Feedback and Questions => Topic started by: TIfanx1999 on December 29, 2015, 06:02:56 pm
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The topic pretty much says it and I wanted to know what others thought. It seems we have a lot of unused/unnecessary IRC channels. As far as I know,#fr and #nl get no activity. I'd imagine #radio #games, and #anime are the same. I can see keeping #thebot for bot testing and #spam if the main channel gets too spammy and people need to go there. #irp I don't know about, I've never been in there. :P What do you guys think? Should we drop some of these channels? Do you use any of them? Would you miss them if they were gone? Please discuss.
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I wouldn't mind dropping some, all that are used are #omni and #spam, occasionally #thebot and #irp. The latter two are unofficial ones anyways ^.^
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I think dropping the channels would be a good idea. It just splits up an already less active channel.
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I'd say the moderators subforum would be a better place for this topic.
#anime does get activity sometimes so I'd be against dropping that. #nl is already dropped from the official list, if it hasn't been removed from OIRC yet then it should. I'm hesitant to drop #fr for historical reasons.
#irp is my channel, no touchy.
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Well, I was interested in hearing what our users thought as well.
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I don't use #FR and #NL, and even if some French/Netherlandish person says hi in there, it's not like it will ever get answered :P #Radio #Games and #Anime never have descutions either :P #Irp is Eeems' but it's not like it gets any activity either. Maybe someone should write an IRP bot (poke poke @Digital ) :P
If the activity-less channals are removed from OIRC (but not necessary dropped) then maybe @Sorunome could add non-omni channels like #cemetech , #ti and others ;)
Edit (Eeems): Eeems' not eeems'es
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I don't think adding other sites channels would make much sense.
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Well, #TI on efnet isnt realy belonging to any site, its just #TI
Futuring other sites'es channels would be good for cross promotion :P
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Well, #TI on efnet isnt realy belonging to any site, its just #TI
Futuring other sites'es channels would be good for cross promotion :P
Actually it's ticalc.org's, iirc
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#irp does have activity, it's just irregular. #cemetech already has sax in it, I doubt they'd want to try to integrate OIRC into their stuff as well.
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@c4ooo Thanks for mentioning because of bots :D
IRP is fun but it is difficult to write an interpreter for a language which doesn't have a defined syntax. also a major part of IRP is that it is executed by a human/programmer-ing being who understands humor imo.
However I'll think of it and I'll probably make an extension :P
#omnimaga, #spam and #thebot are frequently used atm, we can't drop our dictator's channel so #irp stays :P
Empty channels should be dropped automatically. I don't now about #games and #anime, but there are some other channel i which I wish to be more active and not dropped (like all of omnimaga :P)
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#anime should stay, imo, since I am one of the few who occasionally uses it.
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Yea but who do you talk to? :P
And as ive said before it might be wise to not neccesserly drop some channels, but rather make them simply unreachable from the OmnomIRC client ;)
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It is also possible to have channels relayed between omninet and efnet without having them appear in the webbrowser.....or vice versa....or only relay between omnomirc and omninet or something, the possibilities are endless! :D
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Yea but who do you talk to? :P
He talks to me sometimes
And as I've said before it might be wise to not necessarily drop some channels, but rather make them simply unreachable from the OmnomIRC client ;)
How would that be any better? That means if it does get active on IRC, OIRC users wont be able to get at it. It's not like having the channels there makes OIRC any slower or faster for the user.
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Well, as i said, it could make room for other channels ^.^
Also wether need to drop it depends on wether you want to segregate talk or just have everything in one main channel :P
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Oh, also, I think it is appropriate to mention it here, you can drag&drop re-order the channel order in your client, so that e.g. you have #omnimaga and #spam as the two leftmost channels if you use them the most (that's what I did ^.^)
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I was going to suggest adding the ability to add your own channels but i forgot a bot actualy needs to be in that channel ^.^
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You can create your own omnomirc-only channel by typing like /join newchan
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Well, as i said, it could make room for other channels ^.^
(http://i.imgur.com/v4Pr3wG.png)
I think there is lots of room ;)
Also wether need to drop it depends on wether you want to segregate talk or just have everything in one main channel :P
Segregated talk for some subjects is important. Thus the reason for creation of certain channels.
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Well, i meant channels on other networks like Efnet or whatever. I knew you could creat your own channels :P Also we should probobly go back ontopic :P
Eeems: well, as they say, a picture is worth 1000 words ;)
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Hmmm... so realistically, if we really had to cull channels, we could probably cull #prizm (zero activity, nobody there at all) and #nspire-lua (I think there isn't too much discussion these days... but I may be wrong). Language channels are debatable... but I think removing channels isn't the big issue here!
More interestingly, I think we forgot to add back a feature ever since we did an upgrade on OmnomIRC - the "Show Extra Channels" option doesn't have an effect! The channels #IRP, #thebot, #nspire-lua, #prizm, and maybe others were part of that option - if you enabled the extra channels, those channels would show up. Otherwise, they would remain hidden.
Moving forward, depending on how much Sorunome/Eeems want to develop this feature, we could have it so that you can pick which channels you'd want to see. In general, I think if there's some usage of the channels, we wouldn't go as far as to remove them - maybe just hide them. These channels don't detract from our main channel, and they definitely have their purpose in our community.
EDIT: Hmm, they seem to work... maybe the default setting isn't set right? I could've sworn that it was off and I saw the extra channels...
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Hmmm... so realistically, if we really had to cull channels, we could probably cull #prizm (zero activity, nobody there at all) and #nspire-lua (I think there isn't too much discussion these days... but I may be wrong). Language channels are debatable... but I think removing channels isn't the big issue here!
More interestingly, I think we forgot to add back a feature ever since we did an upgrade on OmnomIRC - the "Show Extra Channels" option doesn't have an effect! The channels #IRP, #thebot, #nspire-lua, #prizm, and maybe others were part of that option - if you enabled the extra channels, those channels would show up. Otherwise, they would remain hidden.
Moving forward, depending on how much Sorunome/Eeems want to develop this feature, we could have it so that you can pick which channels you'd want to see. In general, I think if there's some usage of the channels, we wouldn't go as far as to remove them - maybe just hide them. These channels don't detract from our main channel, and they definitely have their purpose in our community.
EDIT: Hmm, they seem to work... maybe the default setting isn't set right? I could've sworn that it was off and I saw the extra channels...
That setting should exist, maybe the default is wrong, lemme check. (defaults are configurable ^.^)
EDIT: There we go, for some reason the channels #irp and #thebot weren't extra channels, prolly due to some config update at some point.
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How would that be any better?
mmm, more useful than all of this would probably be an activity indicator on the oirc tab for a given channel, so omnom users can actually tell which channels are being spoken in without having to switch tabs. that way, somebody speaking in one of the less often used channels is more likely to be noticed by somebody and they wouldn't be as useless / unnecessary.
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If your nick is mentioned then the tab turns red, a general activity indicator would mean the server would need to listen to all chans for you, i'm not sure if i like that.....
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Why not have the server, for each user, store a boolean in an array, each representing a channel. When a channel is spoken in, for each user that flag corresponding to that channal is set to true. Ocasionaly, the server sends the array of booleans to the cleint. (I say occasionally but it should be often enouge so thats it is close to real time, like once per second.) This way the client does not have to listen on every channal but can be notified when a channal is spoken in. Then the cleint would send a request or something to set a specified channal's flag to false.
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ah you just gave me some other (similar) dark magic idea, thanks!
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Ohh... Can you describe it?
Also not trying to be rude, but the solution i thought off came to me in like 5 seconds :P
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Something about using the line number id for the most recent messages and the client knows which ones are read.