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Re: Unnecessary IRC channels?
« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2015, 05:45:46 pm »
Well, as i said, it could make room for other channels ^.^
Also wether need to drop it depends on wether you want to segregate talk or just have everything in one main channel :P
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Re: Unnecessary IRC channels?
« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2015, 05:46:55 pm »
Oh, also, I think it is appropriate to mention it here, you can drag&drop re-order the channel order in your client, so that e.g. you have #omnimaga and #spam as the two leftmost channels if you use them the most (that's what I did ^.^)

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Re: Unnecessary IRC channels?
« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2015, 05:49:52 pm »
I was going to suggest adding the ability to add your own channels but i forgot a bot actualy needs to be in that channel ^.^
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Re: Unnecessary IRC channels?
« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2015, 05:51:05 pm »
You can create your own omnomirc-only channel by typing like /join newchan

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Re: Unnecessary IRC channels?
« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2015, 05:53:05 pm »
Well, as i said, it could make room for other channels ^.^

I think there is lots of room ;)
Also wether need to drop it depends on wether you want to segregate talk or just have everything in one main channel :P
Segregated talk for some subjects is important. Thus the reason for creation of certain channels.
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Re: Unnecessary IRC channels?
« Reply #20 on: December 30, 2015, 05:54:26 pm »
Well, i meant channels on other networks like Efnet or whatever. I knew you could creat your own channels :P Also we should probobly go back ontopic :P

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Re: Unnecessary IRC channels?
« Reply #21 on: December 31, 2015, 12:22:00 am »
Hmmm... so realistically, if we really had to cull channels, we could probably cull #prizm (zero activity, nobody there at all) and #nspire-lua (I think there isn't too much discussion these days... but I may be wrong). Language channels are debatable... but I think removing channels isn't the big issue here!

More interestingly, I think we forgot to add back a feature ever since we did an upgrade on OmnomIRC - the "Show Extra Channels" option doesn't have an effect! The channels #IRP, #thebot, #nspire-lua, #prizm, and maybe others were part of that option - if you enabled the extra channels, those channels would show up. Otherwise, they would remain hidden.

Moving forward, depending on how much Sorunome/Eeems want to develop this feature, we could have it so that you can pick which channels you'd want to see. In general, I think if there's some usage of the channels, we wouldn't go as far as to remove them - maybe just hide them. These channels don't detract from our main channel, and they definitely have their purpose in our community.

EDIT: Hmm, they seem to work... maybe the default setting isn't set right? I could've sworn that it was off and I saw the extra channels...
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Re: Unnecessary IRC channels?
« Reply #22 on: December 31, 2015, 10:05:53 am »
Hmmm... so realistically, if we really had to cull channels, we could probably cull #prizm (zero activity, nobody there at all) and #nspire-lua (I think there isn't too much discussion these days... but I may be wrong). Language channels are debatable... but I think removing channels isn't the big issue here!

More interestingly, I think we forgot to add back a feature ever since we did an upgrade on OmnomIRC - the "Show Extra Channels" option doesn't have an effect! The channels #IRP, #thebot, #nspire-lua, #prizm, and maybe others were part of that option - if you enabled the extra channels, those channels would show up. Otherwise, they would remain hidden.

Moving forward, depending on how much Sorunome/Eeems want to develop this feature, we could have it so that you can pick which channels you'd want to see. In general, I think if there's some usage of the channels, we wouldn't go as far as to remove them - maybe just hide them. These channels don't detract from our main channel, and they definitely have their purpose in our community.

EDIT: Hmm, they seem to work... maybe the default setting isn't set right? I could've sworn that it was off and I saw the extra channels...
That setting should exist, maybe the default is wrong, lemme check. (defaults are configurable ^.^)

EDIT: There we go, for some reason the channels #irp and #thebot weren't extra channels, prolly due to some config update at some point.

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Re: Unnecessary IRC channels?
« Reply #23 on: January 01, 2016, 07:24:40 pm »
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How would that be any better?

mmm, more useful than all of this would probably be an activity indicator on the oirc tab for a given channel, so omnom users can actually tell which channels are being spoken in without having to switch tabs. that way, somebody speaking in one of the less often used channels is more likely to be noticed by somebody and they wouldn't be as useless / unnecessary.

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Re: Unnecessary IRC channels?
« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2016, 02:40:32 am »
If your nick is mentioned then the tab turns red, a general activity indicator would mean the server would need to listen to all chans for you, i'm not sure if i like that.....

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Re: Unnecessary IRC channels?
« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2016, 11:39:07 am »
Why not have the server, for each user, store a boolean in an array, each representing a channel. When a channel is spoken in, for each user that flag corresponding to that channal is set to true. Ocasionaly, the server sends the array of booleans to the cleint. (I say occasionally but it should be often enouge so thats it is close to real time, like once per second.) This way the client does not have to listen on every channal but can be notified when a channal is spoken in.  Then the cleint would send a request or something to set a specified channal's flag to false.
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Re: Unnecessary IRC channels?
« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2016, 12:06:37 pm »
ah you just gave me some other (similar) dark magic idea, thanks!

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Re: Unnecessary IRC channels?
« Reply #27 on: January 03, 2016, 02:59:34 pm »
Ohh... Can you describe it?
Also not trying to be rude, but the solution i thought off came to me in like 5 seconds :P
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Re: Unnecessary IRC channels?
« Reply #28 on: January 04, 2016, 06:45:14 am »
Something about using the line number id for the most recent messages and the client knows which ones are read.

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