Omnimaga
Omnimaga => Site Feedback and Questions => Topic started by: Sorunome on May 31, 2014, 11:37:53 am
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This is a thing now
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnimaga
Also, go and edit it :P
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Countdown before somebody takes this down for lack of relevancy x.x (although I wish it would stay up, since Omni played a large role in Nspire hacking and reviving the calc community in 2010-11, not to mention nDoom and Portal Prelude. Although calc programming is usually considered as irrelevant by wikipedia users, Omni creations were featured several times on popular tech blogs before.
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eh, well, when it got taken down before was 2011, maybe now, 3 years later, the requirements have changed :) Also, it already went through one of the wikipedia patrols :)
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Also the key is to be well-written and not remain a stub for too long or else someone will take it down under the speedy deletion policies. This one seems well-written and conforms to every Wikipedia policies and guidelines. You might want to add a few links to this article on other pages such as TI-84 Plus series, TI-83 series (where Omnimaga is mentioned) and Cemetech (you can always put a link in a See also section).
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Also DJ, you wanne write something up about the music stuff? :3
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Neat. Doesn't mention Illusiat tho. :trollface:
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eh, well, when it got taken down before was 2011, maybe now, 3 years later, the requirements have changed :) Also, it already went through one of the wikipedia patrols :)
Oh ok, I thought the requirements were the same about relevancy (basically, no site involving a very niche hobby like calcs, unless of course a somewhat popular TI game had commercial success in any way).
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eh, well, when it got taken down before was 2011, maybe now, 3 years later, the requirements have changed :) Also, it already went through one of the wikipedia patrols :)
Oh ok, I thought the requirements were the same about relevancy (basically, no site involving a very niche hobby like calcs, unless of course a somewhat popular TI game had commercial success in any way).
well, it had that quick-delete-template already and it also got removed again, so idk
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The introductory paragraph on Wikipedia seems kind of informal, but overall the page is a good start. Follow something similar to the Cemetech page article and it should be fine.
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Btw, the article was flagged as not having reliable sources (IIRC it has to be non-Omni sources such as Engadget and GamesRadar. For example, for Reuben Quest series and The Reign of Legends 3 here's this: http://www.gamesradar.com/the-best-ti-83-rpgs-ever/ ) so it might be wise to add some. It might also be wise to include http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calculator_gaming#Calculator_games link somewhere in the article.
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Also would be helpful if you guys could contribute some too >.<
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Yay, that notability tag is away again :D
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Good to hear. Hopefully the source links will be relevant enough. Has anyone added the ROL3/Reuben Gamesradar article yet? I know the download links are broken due to the Omni upgrade, but they redirect to the board index and there is a download link at the top so it should be fine.
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Yeah, I did
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Ok thanks. That was one of the very few instances where BASIC games got featured on such big blog. 5 RPGs got featured in one article. The only other game of mine to do so was xLIB xLIB Revolution in 2005, but that isn't as notable since it's just a button mashing game with fancy animations.
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Speedy deletion warning. D:
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Seems like a troll : an unknown IP, coming from nowhere just for marking Omni's page.
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OK I removed it.
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Note that there are certain people in the TI community or outside the community who hate Omni or its politics, so if they still pay attention to the site, I wouldn't be surprised if one or more of them, especially if he got banned before, took revenge by trying to take down the Wikipedia article in every way possible. After all similar stuff happened before on Archive.org and Howmuchisyourwebsite worth (in the latter case, the site was flagged as adult site).
Also, the site seems to be missing some stuff including impacts and controversies. For example, TI-Nspire hacking was often seen as a gateway for cheating (TI-Nspire Google group) and certain released tools (PTTKiller, PTTCopier and nLaunchy comes to mind, even if the latter is much safer) are seen as the reason why TI blocks Ndless. Its stricter moderation also sometimes caused controversies in the rest of the calculator community. Also, certain members on TI-Nspire Google Groups, HP Museum, gaming blogs comments and to a lesser extent TI-Planet expressed their disdain for calculator games, saying they are either useless due to more advanced mobile devices or are a nuisance in school. Of course, however, for those controversies, you would need sources, though.
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Even if people hate calculator games, it's not their business and they should care more about their b*tts if they don't want them kicked.
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Seems like a troll : an unknown IP, coming from nowhere just for marking Omni's page.
Well, if your admin is a troll, omni probably has bigger issues~
The reason I requested that ban deserve some explanation because people are inevitably going to be put off by it. To quote Wikipedia:
The barometer of notability is whether people independent of the topic itself (or of its manufacturer, creator, author, inventor, or vendor) have actually considered the topic notable enough that they have written and published non-trivial works of their own that focus upon it – without incentive, promotion, or other influence by people connected to the topic matter.
Omni, great as it may be, does not meet the criteria for a standalone Wikipedia article. An article on the community as a whole with subsections for the major sites would be more appropriate.
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Wait, /you/ requested that delete ?
Also, by googling most calculator related topics, you inevitably find Omnimaga. It's not like we are unknown.
Plus you can add to that that there have been features on Games radar which is an external and objective entity towards us. Which gives us the notoriety we need.
Here are a couple articles that random people couldn't have thought of making :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wii_drivechips
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii_homebrew
Both obviously belong in the Wii article with a mention in the modchip and homebrew articles.
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If there should instead be a community article as a whole, then should the Cemetech page also be merged with it?
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Here are a couple articles that random people couldn't have thought of making :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wii_drivechips
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii_homebrew
Both obviously belong in the Wii article with a mention in the modchip and homebrew articles.
Note that neither is an article about a specific forum for homebrew, but rather about the community as a whole. Incidentally, this is what I explicitly suggested would be more appropriate.
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There used to be an article about calculator gaming, but it since got merged into the mobile gaming article.
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What about calculator programming ? That's not quite like calculator gaming, only more general.
Also, believe it or not, but IkarugaX is famous (I didn't believe it). See :
French articles :
http://www.yaronet.com/posts.php?sl=&s=163726
http://www.retrotaku.com/homebrew/ikaruga-adapte-sur-calculatrice/
http://standalonepost.com/article/nicolas-perrier/ikaruga-et-worms-sur-calculette
http://www.rom-game.fr/news/609-Ikaruga+sur+calculette+-+ca+calme+!.html
http://gamopat.com/article-ikaruga-porte-sur-calculette-121359915.html
http://mag.mo5.com/actu/49543/worms-sur-calculatrice-et-ikaruga-en-video/
https://www.facebook.com/HiddenTavernRetrogaming/posts/683266725029639
English articles :
http://www.pixeljoint.com/2013/11/29/4178/Ikaruga_on_a_Calculator.htm
http://atariage.com/forums/topic/219288-ikaruga-on-old-calculator-so-when-on-cv/
Spanish articles :
http://www.levelup.com/noticias/35514/Adaptan-Ikaruga-a-una-calculadora/
http://disainerds.cl/ikaruga-ahora-en-una-calculadora/
http://www.levelup.com/noticias/35549/El-Dia-en-Tarreo-PS4-en-Brasil-Ikaruga-en-tu-calculadora-y-Adios-Neverland/
http://noticiasvideojuegos.net/2013/11/29/Ikaruga-Adaptan-Ikaruga-a-una-calculadora/
http://retromaniacmagazine.blogspot.fr/2013/11/tremendo-desarrollan-una-version-de.html
I was very amused by the fact that there were so few English articles compared to other languages, though I posted the game everywhere in English, and even the Youtube video is in English (except the description that I made bilingual French/English) xD
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Haha nice Matref. :)
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hmmm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cemetech
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Looks like a good Wikipedia article to me. Ours just needs to be expanded/revised.
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hmmm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cemetech
Actually, I think the only reason that could make Cemetech be Wikipedia-worthy and not Omnimaga is the fact that they have plenty of non-calc material that made Digg/Slashdot/Hackaday headlines in the past and they had panels at MakeFaire and stuff like that. The only time Omnimaga ever got mentionned on a big non-calc site or IRL is about calc-related material.
It depends of people's opinion, though. Some people see everything calc-related as irrelevant, while others find certain things about it noteworthy.
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How could it be irrelevant ? I'm not sure people find console homebrew irrelevant, calc programming is the same but on calculators.
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We got deleted D:
Actually, moved until we assert both notability and importance, as well as only link to outside sources. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Piguy101/Omnimaga
Long story short, link to ticalc news articles, and make a subsection about the importance of Axe.
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At least it's still there...
It was scary to get to an empty page on Omnimaga
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We got deleted D:
Actually, moved until we assert both notability and importance, as well as only link to outside sources. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Piguy101/Omnimaga
Long story short, link to ticalc news articles, and make a subsection about the importance of Axe.
Maybe we should just work on an article about the TI community instead? Build from there?
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There used to be one, but it seems that even that wasn't considered notable enough by Wikipedia users or admins to have its own article. It has since became a sub-section of mobile games.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_game#Calculator_games
Our best bet for having Omnimaga mentionned on Wikipedia is to fix the Omnimaga links at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TI-84_Plus and other calc pages so they don't look spammy (eg: Change description to "game downloads and forums")
Is linking to another wiki allowed? If so, then maybe TI-Story could be linked to somewhere.
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The links on the TI-84 page seem to work ???
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Has anyone backed up the page? If not, I will do that.
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The links on the TI-84 page seem to work ???
yeah I know, but the description is very spammish. It has to be non-promotional and neutral.
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We should have our own wiki (wikia?)!
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ew, not wikia, out of all the servers we have we could put a own mediawiki wiki somewhere :P
Also, there is altready TI-Story
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ew, not wikia, out of all the servers we have we could put a own mediawiki wiki somewhere :P
Also, there is altready TI-Story
Oh. Okay then.
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Wikia sucks. :P
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Wikia sucks. :P
Don't do the same thing as when i mention macs
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The thing with wikia is that they keep pushing their own custom styles nobody likes plus it is over-blown with ads.
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Trust me I will.
/me runs
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The thing with wikia is that they keep pushing their own custom styles nobody likes plus it is over-blown with ads.
Thanks for telling me
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What he said wasn't in reply to your last post.
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The thing with wikia is that they keep pushing their own custom styles nobody likes plus it is over-blown with ads.
Wookiepedia has a message on their front page saying that you should sign up so you can switch to Monobook. :D
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The thing with wikia is that they keep pushing their own custom styles nobody likes plus it is over-blown with ads.
Wookiepedia has a message on their front page saying that you should sign up so you can switch to Monobook. :D
Yeah, well, not every visiter that happens to pass buy wants to make an account only for monobook :P