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Re: Calling Brave Axe Warriors!
« Reply #75 on: June 23, 2010, 05:43:28 pm »
A full backup? All files are transfered individually, and put together into one group at the end by the computer. I doubt the calc knows it's doing a full backup. It may be worth a try, though.
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Re: Calling Brave Axe Warriors!
« Reply #76 on: June 23, 2010, 05:47:20 pm »
On a semi-unrelated note, I found the latest version of wabbit and I can use the variables menu now! ;D
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Re: Calling Brave Axe Warriors!
« Reply #77 on: June 23, 2010, 06:25:11 pm »
Glad to hear. Weirdly enough, though, I always got it to work fine as soon as I discovered it, even with a build from late 2009

@Quigibo I wish you good luck. I hope you figure out a way to fix the issue.
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Re: Calling Brave Axe Warriors!
« Reply #78 on: June 24, 2010, 01:44:08 am »
Alright, I tried the drag and drop, but that only lets me drag anything green to export it. All of the apps are red and it doesn't let me drag/drop it.

I tried the full backup for my calc and strangely enough, it does the exact same thing as if I only transfer the app. Everything else comes out fine (including all the other apps) but the app compiled in Axe still comes out at 400 bytes.
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Re: Calling Brave Axe Warriors!
« Reply #79 on: June 24, 2010, 01:50:18 am »
ouch :/ sorry to hear then :/

This is strange. I hope there is a solution
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Re: Calling Brave Axe Warriors!
« Reply #80 on: June 24, 2010, 01:39:18 pm »
I'll analyze the file later to see what it sent.
« Last Edit: June 24, 2010, 01:40:07 pm by graphmastur »
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Re: Calling Brave Axe Warriors!
« Reply #81 on: July 01, 2010, 11:35:14 pm »
I have what may be a bug!

This may only happen on nspires, not sure. When I recompile an app, so it deletes itself, it still increases the number of apps by one, but since there isn't an extra app, it duplicates the last app that was there. Right now I'm at 6 duplicates on my nspire. All duplicate apps lead to the finance app.

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Apps on calc
Finance
Axe
AXED
Puzzpack
Periodic
RushHour
PONG
Transfrm
Francais

List
Top to bottom
Finance
Axe
AXED
Puzzpack
Periodic
RushHour
PONG
Transfrm
Francais
Francais
Francais
Francais
Francais

Scrolling Bottom to top
Finance
Finance
Finance
Finance
Finance
Finance
Axe
AXED
Puzzpack
Periodic
RushHour
PONG
Transfrm
Francais

Not sure if it's axe, but I have a sneaking suspicion it is, as I haven't done anything else AT ALL with it but axe.

Maybe a Keypad swap will clear it.....

Is anyone else experiencing this?
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Re: Calling Brave Axe Warriors!
« Reply #82 on: July 02, 2010, 12:02:30 am »
Is this with the old beta?  I have fixed many things since then with 0.3.2 including adding a dummy signature and updating the size field of the app.  Those might have something to do with it if the Nspire handles things differently.  Does this happen every time or just sometimes?

I would do a rom clear to get everything back to normal.  Backup your stuff.
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Re: Calling Brave Axe Warriors!
« Reply #83 on: July 02, 2010, 12:23:25 am »
Quigibo, you do delete the previous app if it already exists, right?
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Re: Calling Brave Axe Warriors!
« Reply #84 on: July 02, 2010, 12:29:39 am »
Yes of course.  You should see the "Defragmenting..." message every time you compile an app that already exists.  That means that the old app is getting deleted.
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Re: Calling Brave Axe Warriors!
« Reply #85 on: July 02, 2010, 01:00:37 am »
Would it be possible to merely overwrite the data instead of deleting it, defragmenting, then writing it?
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Re: Calling Brave Axe Warriors!
« Reply #86 on: July 02, 2010, 01:25:18 am »
No, the way flash works is that all the data has to be cleared at the same time, or at least in very large chunks.  After that, the entire page is 1s in binary.  From then on, you can only write 0's over the 1's and you wouldn't be able to write a 1 over a 0 since the memory is kind of "one way".  Think about it like the voltage potential is put high and it is easy to put it low (by writing a 0) but it can't be put high again unless the entire chip is put high.

Its really interesting actually.  There is a good article on Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_memory#Block_erasure
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Re: Calling Brave Axe Warriors!
« Reply #87 on: July 02, 2010, 01:28:56 am »
Ah i see, thats too bad.  Oh well, with the benefit of Application compiling, its sure worth the tiny wait ^^
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Re: Calling Brave Axe Warriors!
« Reply #88 on: July 03, 2010, 10:24:40 am »
Quote from: Quigibo on July 02, 2010, 01:25:18 am
No, the way flash works is that all the data has to be cleared at the same time, or at least in very large chunks.  After that, the entire page is 1s in binary.  From then on, you can only write 0's over the 1's and you wouldn't be able to write a 1 over a 0 since the memory is kind of "one way".  Think about it like the voltage potential is put high and it is easy to put it low (by writing a 0) but it can't be put high again unless the entire chip is put high.

Its really interesting actually.  There is a good article on Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_memory#Block_erasure
Oh!  That makes sense now!  Thanks for the great explanation. ;D
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