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Offline Quigibo

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Re: Features Wishlist
« Reply #30 on: February 03, 2010, 05:02:09 pm »
It is not possible to arbitrarily break a program from asm without using interrupts and special exit code.  BASIC is interpreted so that's why it can break anywhere.

Luckily however, the security is taken care of by Axe Parser itself.  It will give you the option of automatically archiving all the RAM including your source code before testing your program so that if it crashes, you have everything backed up and you don't lose anything.  I will start working on these features in a few weeks probably.
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Re: Features Wishlist
« Reply #31 on: February 03, 2010, 05:16:13 pm »
Thanks!  I think that would work too. :D
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Re: Features Wishlist
« Reply #32 on: February 03, 2010, 05:43:49 pm »
Oh that's too bad.  Out of curiosity, what happens if you try to break out of the program while within a sub?  Does it just crash then?
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Re: Features Wishlist
« Reply #33 on: February 03, 2010, 05:54:26 pm »
Apparently you can't break at all, so it doesn't matter. But Quigibo, if you save the stack pointer somewhere at the beginning of execution, it should be no problem (this method is used quite a bit in asm programs iirc)
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Re: Features Wishlist
« Reply #34 on: February 03, 2010, 07:03:12 pm »
So what would happen if you broke out of the program but didn't restore the stack pointer?
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Re: Features Wishlist
« Reply #35 on: February 03, 2010, 07:05:16 pm »
Quote from: calc84maniac on February 03, 2010, 05:54:26 pm
Apparently you can't break at all, so it doesn't matter. But Quigibo, if you save the stack pointer somewhere at the beginning of execution, it should be no problem (this method is used quite a bit in asm programs iirc)
Yes I use this too.  But it would still require a special interrupt setup and interrupt routine which might prevent custom interrupts.  Regardless, I think I'll just worry about this later and focus on the more important stuff for now.

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So what would happen if you broke out of the program but didn't restore the stack pointer?
It would return out of the subroutine without finishing it causing unknown consequences.  It would not exit the program either.
« Last Edit: February 03, 2010, 07:08:31 pm by Quigibo »
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Re: Features Wishlist
« Reply #36 on: February 03, 2010, 11:59:59 pm »
Sorry to double post, but I've just started to add the "Output()" feature and I'd like to get some feedback on it.

I know that native BASIC uses Output(y,x) but I much prefer the form of Ouput(x,y).  Should I keep it the old way to less confuse people transitioning from BASIC to Axe, or should I change it to (x,y) so that its more consistent with "Text(" "Pt-On(" and the other drawing commands?
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Re: Features Wishlist
« Reply #37 on: February 04, 2010, 12:02:28 am »
Quote from: Quigibo on February 03, 2010, 11:59:59 pm
Sorry to double post, but I've just started to add the "Output()" feature and I'd like to get some feedback on it.

I know that native BASIC uses Output(y,x) but I much prefer the form of Ouput(x,y).  Should I keep it the old way to less confuse people transitioning from BASIC to Axe, or should I change it to (x,y) so that its more consistent with "Text(" "Pt-On(" and the other drawing commands?
I think you should keep the old way, but start counting at 0 instead of 1.
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Re: Features Wishlist
« Reply #38 on: February 04, 2010, 12:13:30 am »
Also, I think Text() is also (y,x) along with pixel-on/off/change/check.
It's only line(), Pt-On/Off that's (x,y)
I'll rather have it (y,x), since I got so used to it
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Re: Features Wishlist
« Reply #39 on: February 04, 2010, 12:17:14 am »
Haha, i would suggest using x,y and starting at 0 :P
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Re: Features Wishlist
« Reply #40 on: February 04, 2010, 12:24:39 am »
I personally would suggest x,y and starting with 0, to be more consistent with every other functions. I myself easily get confused with the BASIC output cuz I am so used to x being first in graphical functions except Text x.x

It would also help people get more used to standards
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Re: Features Wishlist
« Reply #41 on: February 04, 2010, 12:39:53 am »
(x,y)
because of aforementioned reasons.
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Re: Features Wishlist
« Reply #42 on: February 04, 2010, 07:04:40 am »
(x,y) and starting from 0
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Re: Features Wishlist
« Reply #43 on: February 04, 2010, 07:06:33 am »
Quote from: Quigibo on February 03, 2010, 07:05:16 pm
Yes I use this too.  But it would still require a special interrupt setup and interrupt routine which might prevent custom interrupts.  Regardless, I think I'll just worry about this later and focus on the more important stuff for now.
Just hook the program interrupt and the break interrupt. Not hard, I think. And yes, essential features first.
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Re: Features Wishlist
« Reply #44 on: February 04, 2010, 07:50:20 am »
Quote from: Builderboy on February 04, 2010, 12:17:14 am
Haha, i would suggest using x,y and starting at 0 :P
I'd have to agree here. =)
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