Post by: Liazon on December 20, 2005, 05:15:00 pm
Since I've joined the TI Community, my goal has always been to make a calculator RPG. So far, I have not done that. Instead, I only have tons of small useless programs that do very little. During the past two months of learning ASM and C, and getting pounded by tons of homework, I've been coming up with a story and title for the project that I'd like to leave behind in the community. So I've finally come up with this:
Deus Ex Mortalis (latin for God in mortal man)
It's an RPG about the main character who is psion with various psionic powers. And he's a rebel. For now, that's all I'd like to reveal about the story until somebody finds a work with a similar name. So far, I've only found a short film on google with the same title, but it seems that it was somebody's school project. I'm just afraid of working too hard on the story and finding out I have to change it to avoid legal actions.
Now here's the trilogy part to it:
At the moment, I have 3 different versions of the game (mostly just title screens at the moment). One is in Ti-89 Basic (DEM), one is in Ti-83+ ASM (DEMD), and one is in 68k C (DEMZ). I've decided that they should all have a different storyline, but the same basic plot. Most likely, RPG elements will vary depending upon the language I'm using and the ease of implementing them.
Major ROADBLOCKS:
1.) I barely have time during school. Right now, I usually just program DEM during some classes. The C and ASM versions I pick up occasionally.
2.) I'm still in the learning process of learning 89-Basic, 83+ASM, and 68k C.
3.) I have never made anything on such a massive scale before.
FORTUNATELY:
1.) If I am dedicated as I think I am, I'll continue working on it through college just to get them done.
2.) I feel that I must leave something behind in the Ti-Community to thank everyone who has been kindn enough to offer meadvice and teach me programming.
So basically, I wanted to put this out just in case the idea was already taken. If not, I claim the title as my own until I see it an impossible task.
Post by: BCTurk on December 20, 2005, 05:44:00 pm
Post by: tenniskid493 on December 21, 2005, 02:15:00 am
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 21, 2005, 02:51:00 am
and one advice: work on one thing at a time, like start with map engine, then once done do the battle engine, then the menu, etc. Also write down your ideas on paper, like every story event, every game side quest, maps, etc. Thats what I did with all reign of legends games and reuben quest games :)
Post by: dragon__lance on December 21, 2005, 03:42:00 pm
Anyways, sound awesome :D
Post by: Liazon on December 22, 2005, 10:28:00 am
How do I take (animated) screen shots of an 89 Basic program?
NOTE: This may be the only update you may get for a VERY VERY LONG TIME.
Post by: Spellshaper on December 22, 2005, 10:36:00 am
| QUOTE (calcul831415 @ 22 December 2005, 22:28) |
| How do I take (animated) screen shots of an 89 Basic program? |
take an emulator and use calccapture to make animated sreenies!
Post by: Liazon on January 08, 2006, 07:13:00 am
I have no idea how to get any calc related stuff to work on the new computer. I'm totally unfamiliar with Windows XP.
Post by: tenniskid493 on January 08, 2006, 07:14:00 am
Post by: Liazon on January 08, 2006, 07:18:00 am
At least the old computer works, but it's no longer connected to the internet.
updates: still making tile mappers for all 3 versions. In all 3 different languages.
edit: my old comp was windows 98.
the organization of XP seems really foreign to me that's all. i can't seem to navigate through all the files on the comp very well.
or adjust settings.
Post by: tenniskid493 on January 08, 2006, 07:26:00 am
to make a new file type (for getting the .z80 files) you need to click tools, and then folder options...I forget exactly how to fill it out
Post by: kalan_vod on January 08, 2006, 07:37:00 am
Post by: MathStuf on January 08, 2006, 07:38:00 am
Post by: Spellshaper on January 08, 2006, 08:58:00 am
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on January 08, 2006, 12:15:00 pm
Post by: Spellshaper on January 08, 2006, 11:55:00 pm
Post by: Liazon on January 20, 2006, 05:12:00 am
Still haven't gotten any ASM to compile yet. No time with exams and all.
I'm sorry to say, that DEM 83+ is dead. It will be revived after I make my first 83+ ASM project.
DEM 89 will live on as soon as I learn more C!!!! I'm only part way through technoplaza tutorials!!!! Oh ya, no basic version.
edit: Any sprite requests I made: they weren't for DEM 83+ btw.
edit again:
BAD NEWS: Millions of years for anything to assemble for 83+. Old comp took seconds. Still can't get anything to compile on new comp.
GOOD NEWS: TIGCC compiles 10x faster than on old comp!! Hooray!!!
another edit: VahnRPG was able to help me get the compiler working again. Like with TIGCC, it compiles much faster than on my old computer!
even more edit:
first sprites! they are 24 width 25 height. Is that too big for and 89?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on January 20, 2006, 02:35:00 pm
, oh wellat least nice to see the 68k version progressing nicely :)
nice sprites btw
Post by: kalan_vod on January 20, 2006, 03:02:00 pm
| QUOTE (xlibman @ 20 January 2006, 20:35) |
| too bad for the 83+ version :(, oh well at least nice to see the 68k version progressing nicely :) nice sprites btw |
They do look really nice, but they seem to have coime from http://charas-project.net/ site :D
. Post by: MathStuf on January 20, 2006, 03:20:00 pm
| QUOTE (Liazon @ 20 January 2006, 11:12) |
| GOOD NEWS: TIGCC compiles 10x faster than on old comp!! Hooray!!! |
Compile time went from 1:00+ to less than 5s from my old PC to my new one for PokeModr...
I like the sprites too.
Post by: Spellshaper on January 21, 2006, 02:24:00 am
nice sprites!!!!
Post by: Liazon on January 21, 2006, 04:07:00 am
| QUOTE (kalan_vod @ 20 January 2006, 21:02) | ||
QuoteBegin-xlibman+20 January 2006, 20:35-->
They do look really nice, but they seem to have coime from http://charas-project.net/ site :D . |
I know they came from project charas. oops I forgot to mention that.
Right now I'm making a difficult decision between using the medium character build or the little character build.
medium build produces 24 width x 25 height sprites. might be able to shave it down to 16 width depending on clothing choice.
little build produces 16 width x 20 height sprites. But there aren't that many premade options, so a lot of the extra clothing and items I'll have to draw myself.
Fortunately, both will tile the screen very well, it's just a matter of speed, that's all.
note: I'm the type of person who needs to start making good sprites before I can start coding anything else. It demoralizes me whenever someone makes good comments on gameplay, and bad comments on my graphics. *points to Turkey Hunt http://www.geocities.com/calcul831415
edit: I think if I shaved off this guy's wings, he'd be 16 width, 25 height. Maybe I should do that?
Post by: kalan_vod on January 21, 2006, 08:31:00 am
Post by: CDI on January 21, 2006, 08:42:00 am
Post by: dragon__lance on January 21, 2006, 02:38:00 pm
*hopes for 83+ version...
Post by: Radical Pi on January 22, 2006, 06:45:00 am
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on January 22, 2006, 11:02:00 am
Post by: Liazon on January 22, 2006, 12:10:00 pm
More details later.
edit:
@Radical Pi and Dragon__Lance:
I'm kinda just making sprites at the moment while I'm learning C, which still confuses me a lot.
I will make an 83+ strategy game/RPG, but it won't be DEM. Actually, right now I'm doing more work on that game, then on actually coding a tilemapper for DEM 89 (which should probably be my priority actually.) Only issue is that I'm having issues with displaying VERY LARGE MASKED GREYSCALE sprites on the 83+. And I have not made sprites for the 83+ game :D
:D:D
Post by: Liazon on January 31, 2006, 09:44:00 am
Still, trying to figure out which keypress form to use. Speed is a big necessity, but ironically, graphics are not the speed critical section, just keypress.
edit: for some odd reason, the 83+ game has caught up in progress. eh, who knows, I might just have to release DEM and the 83+ game at the same time. Hopefully it will be an acceptable first project. Considering what I've already learned, and the two languages I'm using, it'd be sad if I couldn't deliver.
Post by: Radical Pi on January 31, 2006, 10:06:00 am
Post by: kalan_vod on January 31, 2006, 12:47:00 pm
Post by: Liazon on February 05, 2006, 07:21:00 am
edit: if it makes you guys feel better, the 83+ project isn't dead. it just won't be DEM.
Post by: tenniskid493 on February 05, 2006, 07:42:00 am
Post by: Radical Pi on February 05, 2006, 07:48:00 am
| QUOTE (Liazon @ 5 February 2006, 13:21) |
| Dead until further notice. |
QuoteBegin-echo of you+
| QUOTE (echo of you) |
| Dead until further notice. |
QuoteBegin-echo of you+
-->| QUOTE (echo of you) |
| Dead until further notice. |
:dissapointed:
We were waiting so eagerly...did something bad happen?
We were waiting so eagerly...did something bad happen?
Post by: Spellshaper on February 05, 2006, 07:54:00 am
Post by: kalan_vod on February 05, 2006, 08:02:00 am
, but at least you will still be around here!
Post by: Liazon on February 05, 2006, 08:13:00 am
Post by: Radical Pi on February 05, 2006, 08:53:00 am
| QUOTE (Liazon @ 5 February 2006, 14:13) |
| I shot too high, and now I realize that I can't program. Maybe I'll never program ever again. |
Did you at least start out small, or was this your first project? How much experience do you have?
*Radical Pi
Post by: Spellshaper on February 05, 2006, 08:57:00 am
Post by: Radical Pi on February 05, 2006, 09:22:00 am
If DEM has to die, just put it on hold.
Post by: Liazon on February 05, 2006, 09:41:00 am
| QUOTE (Radical Pi @ 5 February 2006, 15:22) |
| If DEM has to die, just put it on hold. |
QuoteBegin
| QUOTE |
| ...until further notice. |
it's not gone forever, probably just until the next major vacation.
Radical Pi: you're right, I have no programming experience at all. I just know too much stuff that is useless.
Post by: Radical Pi on February 05, 2006, 09:56:00 am
| QUOTE |
| I have no programming experience at all. I just know too much stuff that is useless. |
Almost a perfect example of me. Don't give up, just go slowly, like I am. Make some test programs to see if your overall programming concept is correct. I'm not sure what you can do, just do something. :D
DEM != :rip:
DEM = true
DEM != :rip:
DEM = true
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on February 05, 2006, 12:11:00 pm
http://www.etpstudio.com
this is a whole lot easier than TI-89 BASIC.
Post by: dragon__lance on February 05, 2006, 12:36:00 pm
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on February 05, 2006, 01:10:00 pm
Post by: Liazon on February 05, 2006, 02:29:00 pm
edit: I think you guys are right. I just need to start off simpler. And I think I may already know what I want to work on. But ya, don't expect progress for eons. :dang:
Post by: Radical Pi on February 06, 2006, 12:03:00 pm
:)
;)
Post by: Liazon on February 07, 2006, 04:40:00 pm
I'm sure they will all turn out great, and eventually all of you will ascend to the level of respect that Kevin has earned throughout his career. As for me, I don't plan to get there in the near future. Forgive me for that.
edit: this title is MINE!!
Post by: Liazon on March 14, 2006, 11:09:00 am
a z80 ASM project:
I will have to learn z80 ASM AGAIN!!! and perhaps I'll never even get it started. black and white or greyscale?
a 68k project:
I probably won't begin work until the summer or after I finish my first game.
Another thing, I think I might want to change the title now that I've thought over the story a bit more.
OR
Should I try to learn Java, enough to skip compsci and go straight into AP compsci and make a Java RPG when I have the time?
ultimately, this game WILL BE REVIVED!
Post by: Radical Pi on March 14, 2006, 11:19:00 am
You could start it as a z80 project, finish that, port it to 68k, and by then you should be in AP CompSci learning Java with others, but after that much programming you should be able to pick it up on your own.
Post by: Liazon on March 14, 2006, 11:23:00 am
the problem is I'm pressed for time. Even in the summer, I'll probably have to work, do AP hw, and then see if I have time to program. Hopefully I can finish this first game (not DEM) soon. I bet you anything all of you can program a z80 version in 10 minutes while it takes me 10 weeks to finish. :)
Post by: Radical Pi on March 14, 2006, 11:32:00 am
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on March 15, 2006, 10:57:00 am
Post by: kalan_vod on March 15, 2006, 04:34:00 pm