Author Topic: Circle Graphs  (Read 24732 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline meishe91

  • Super Ninja
  • LV11 Super Veteran (Next: 3000)
  • ***********
  • Posts: 2946
  • Rating: +115/-11
    • View Profile
    • DeviantArt
Re: Circle Graphs
« Reply #60 on: September 03, 2010, 09:35:13 pm »
Ah yes, Criss Angel's favorite saying :P
Spoiler For Spoiler:



For the 51st time, that is not my card! (Magic Joke)

Offline Deep Toaster

  • So much to do, so much time, so little motivation
  • Administrator
  • LV13 Extreme Addict (Next: 9001)
  • *************
  • Posts: 8217
  • Rating: +758/-15
    • View Profile
    • ClrHome
Re: Circle Graphs
« Reply #61 on: September 07, 2010, 07:59:50 pm »
Why does it do it faster? i never even heard of the imaginary i being used this way before.

It's faster because instead of having to calculate each pixel location on the circle, the calculator only calculates an eighth of it and uses circle symmetry (read: negation) to copy that slice to all the other parts. I've always wondered why it isn't default on the TI-83 Plus series and needs at least two more bytes :-\

EDIT: Three more.
« Last Edit: September 07, 2010, 08:00:06 pm by Deep Thought »




Offline meishe91

  • Super Ninja
  • LV11 Super Veteran (Next: 3000)
  • ***********
  • Posts: 2946
  • Rating: +115/-11
    • View Profile
    • DeviantArt
Re: Circle Graphs
« Reply #62 on: September 07, 2010, 08:09:27 pm »
OH YA! I remember seeing something like that a long time ago. Completely forgot. I actually emailed TI-Cares to see if I can get an answer to why this is undocumented and such :P
Spoiler For Spoiler:



For the 51st time, that is not my card! (Magic Joke)

Offline Deep Toaster

  • So much to do, so much time, so little motivation
  • Administrator
  • LV13 Extreme Addict (Next: 9001)
  • *************
  • Posts: 8217
  • Rating: +758/-15
    • View Profile
    • ClrHome
Re: Circle Graphs
« Reply #63 on: September 07, 2010, 08:12:07 pm »
other things are Line(X1,Y1,X2,Y2,[0]) will make the line be a black or white line, and Text([-1],X,Y makes small or large text.

I think TI actually does document that. It's in the user's manual.




Offline guy6020665

  • LV6 Super Member (Next: 500)
  • ******
  • Posts: 481
  • Rating: +7/-1
    • View Profile
Re: Circle Graphs
« Reply #64 on: September 07, 2010, 08:12:25 pm »
OH YA! I remember seeing something like that a long time ago. Completely forgot. I actually emailed TI-Cares to see if I can get an answer to why this is undocumented and such :P

Did you get an actual answer?

Offline DJ Omnimaga

  • Clacualters are teh gr33t
  • CoT Emeritus
  • LV15 Omnimagician (Next: --)
  • *
  • Posts: 55943
  • Rating: +3154/-232
  • CodeWalrus founder & retired Omnimaga founder
    • View Profile
    • Dream of Omnimaga Music
Re: Circle Graphs
« Reply #65 on: September 07, 2010, 08:26:23 pm »
other things are Line(X1,Y1,X2,Y2,[0]) will make the line be a black or white line, and Text([-1],X,Y makes small or large text.

I think TI actually does document that. It's in the user's manual.
They documented the Line() 5th argument, but neither the Text(-1 and Circle imaginary i arguments. I checked in the huge TI-83+ manual I got that came with my calc 9 years ago and it got nothing about it.

Offline Builderboy

  • Physics Guru
  • CoT Emeritus
  • LV13 Extreme Addict (Next: 9001)
  • *
  • Posts: 5673
  • Rating: +613/-9
  • Would you kindly?
    • View Profile
Re: Circle Graphs
« Reply #66 on: September 07, 2010, 08:28:10 pm »
Somehow i doubt Ti-Cares has ever given an actual answer unfortunately x.x

Offline meishe91

  • Super Ninja
  • LV11 Super Veteran (Next: 3000)
  • ***********
  • Posts: 2946
  • Rating: +115/-11
    • View Profile
    • DeviantArt
Re: Circle Graphs
« Reply #67 on: September 07, 2010, 08:35:50 pm »
OH YA! I remember seeing something like that a long time ago. Completely forgot. I actually emailed TI-Cares to see if I can get an answer to why this is undocumented and such :P

Did you get an actual answer?

Sort of actually. I mean it still seemed generic but it was actually somewhat specified. They haven't given me an answer to question yet but they are apparently passing it off to the Technical Escalation Team, what ever that is.

This is what I got back so far:

Quote from: From TI-Cares
Josh,

Thank you for contacting Texas Instruments!

Upon investigating and trying the problem that you have provided me, I have not been able to provide a solution or concrete answer as to why {i} is essentially causing your circle to graph faster. So what I will do is escalate your case on to Technical Escalations, and my Escalations Team will take it from there. So that the Escalation Team will have a good contact point, I would like for you to please supply me with the following information:

-Your last name
-A good phone number to contact you back with if need be
-The operating system you are using on your TI-84 Plus Unit

Another resource you can use to find answers to your questions, example calculations and other information is our Knowledge Base. The Knowledge Base is accessible to you 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

http://support.education.ti.com

I hope that you find this information helpful. If you have further questions or comments, please feel free to send me an email.

Warmest Regards,

Keith Sargent
Spoiler For Spoiler:



For the 51st time, that is not my card! (Magic Joke)

Offline DJ Omnimaga

  • Clacualters are teh gr33t
  • CoT Emeritus
  • LV15 Omnimagician (Next: --)
  • *
  • Posts: 55943
  • Rating: +3154/-232
  • CodeWalrus founder & retired Omnimaga founder
    • View Profile
    • Dream of Omnimaga Music
Re: Circle Graphs
« Reply #68 on: September 07, 2010, 08:39:01 pm »
Lol don't make them get rid of that undocumented feature either XD

We never know with TI. Maybe they'll see it as a bug and completly remove it x.x

Offline meishe91

  • Super Ninja
  • LV11 Super Veteran (Next: 3000)
  • ***********
  • Posts: 2946
  • Rating: +115/-11
    • View Profile
    • DeviantArt
Re: Circle Graphs
« Reply #69 on: September 07, 2010, 08:41:11 pm »
Well I feel like since it's an extra argument that was added it was intentional put there. In the reply I also stated that this was not a problem and that it is actually very useful and fast.

On topic though:
Nemo, did you ever get a chance to show your teacher?
Spoiler For Spoiler:



For the 51st time, that is not my card! (Magic Joke)

Offline Deep Toaster

  • So much to do, so much time, so little motivation
  • Administrator
  • LV13 Extreme Addict (Next: 9001)
  • *************
  • Posts: 8217
  • Rating: +758/-15
    • View Profile
    • ClrHome
Re: Circle Graphs
« Reply #70 on: September 07, 2010, 10:11:21 pm »
Heh, somehow that sounds like a canned response :D




Offline nemo

  • LV9 Veteran (Next: 1337)
  • *********
  • Posts: 1203
  • Rating: +95/-11
    • View Profile
Re: Circle Graphs
« Reply #71 on: September 07, 2010, 11:45:24 pm »
i was going to show her, but didn't after she took a student's calculator away when the student made a program to do sigma notation (i lol'd, thinking of the sum(seq([EXP],[Var],[start],[end])) trick.


Offline DJ Omnimaga

  • Clacualters are teh gr33t
  • CoT Emeritus
  • LV15 Omnimagician (Next: --)
  • *
  • Posts: 55943
  • Rating: +3154/-232
  • CodeWalrus founder & retired Omnimaga founder
    • View Profile
    • Dream of Omnimaga Music
Re: Circle Graphs
« Reply #72 on: September 07, 2010, 11:48:21 pm »
X.x sorry to hear

Offline calcdude84se

  • Needs Motivation
  • LV11 Super Veteran (Next: 3000)
  • ***********
  • Posts: 2272
  • Rating: +78/-13
  • Wondering where their free time went...
    • View Profile
Re: Circle Graphs
« Reply #73 on: September 07, 2010, 11:51:59 pm »
i was going to show her, but didn't after she took a student's calculator away when the student made a program to do sigma notation (i lol'd, thinking of the sum(seq([EXP],[Var],[start],[end])) trick.
x.x Wow... :(
That's saddening.
"People think computers will keep them from making mistakes. They're wrong. With computers you make mistakes faster."
-Adam Osborne
Spoiler For "PartesOS links":
I'll put it online when it does something.

Offline meishe91

  • Super Ninja
  • LV11 Super Veteran (Next: 3000)
  • ***********
  • Posts: 2946
  • Rating: +115/-11
    • View Profile
    • DeviantArt
Re: Circle Graphs
« Reply #74 on: September 08, 2010, 01:54:52 am »
That is pretty ridiculous...just because a student is smart enough to figure something she couldn't out doesn't call for that...lame sausage.
Spoiler For Spoiler:



For the 51st time, that is not my card! (Magic Joke)