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Re: Lots of Questions (I'm a newb ^_^)
« Reply #30 on: March 13, 2010, 06:47:47 am »
Quote from: meishe91 on March 13, 2010, 05:59:28 am
But, couldn't you techinically rig the lists so you could use them for multiple games as long as your defining everythign correctly?
Yes, but unless the games are similar or related to each other, or you make the lists extra big, you're either going to use the wrong data or over write data for other games.
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Re: Lots of Questions (I'm a newb ^_^)
« Reply #31 on: March 13, 2010, 11:38:14 am »
Right.  However, there are 6+26+26^2+26^3+26^4+26^5 = 12356636 different list names, so it's unlikely that two programs use the same list. :)
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Re: Lots of Questions (I'm a newb ^_^)
« Reply #32 on: March 13, 2010, 03:58:29 pm »
Quote from: ztrumpet on March 13, 2010, 11:38:14 am
Right.  However, there are 6+26+26^2+26^3+26^4+26^5 = 12356636 different list names, so it's unlikely that two programs use the same list. :)
Most of my programs use L1 ;)
But if you're naming the lists yourself, as long as you don't use some kind of generic name like LGAME, I doubt you'll ever run into the issue of two games fighting for the same save file, or whatever similar situation could arise.
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Re: Lots of Questions (I'm a newb ^_^)
« Reply #33 on: March 13, 2010, 04:30:58 pm »
not only 26 base, but since you can use the number after the first character, isn't it more like 6+26+36^2+36^3+36^4+36^5 which is 62193776?
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Re: Lots of Questions (I'm a newb ^_^)
« Reply #34 on: March 13, 2010, 05:06:16 pm »
Well ya, I just meant like one game uses L1(1-9) then another program uses L1(10-16) and so on. Wouldn't that work? Or is that what you were saying that you need to make them extra big?
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Re: Lots of Questions (I'm a newb ^_^)
« Reply #35 on: March 13, 2010, 07:13:53 pm »
Quote from: ztrumpet on March 13, 2010, 11:38:14 am
Right.  However, there are 6+26+26^2+26^3+26^4+26^5 = 12356636 different list names, so it's unlikely that two programs use the same list. :)
Yeah that's true, but some List names are used more often than others (ie LSTATS, LGAME, LSAVE, etc.) If you don't use a common List name, then you shouldn't have a problem.
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Re: Lots of Questions (I'm a newb ^_^)
« Reply #36 on: March 13, 2010, 07:41:22 pm »
btw I don't recommend using customly named lists as much as possible. Only use them when you have no choice or for data that is not accessed frequently, like save files. They take considerable amouts of memory. Imagine if your code contains L1 50 times and you decide to use LFINAL instead: You waste a big 250 bytes of RAM
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Re: Lots of Questions (I'm a newb ^_^)
« Reply #37 on: March 13, 2010, 09:55:50 pm »
Quote from: jsj795 on March 13, 2010, 04:30:58 pm
not only 26 base, but since you can use the number after the first character, isn't it more like 6+26+36^2+36^3+36^4+36^5 which is 62193776?
Great point!  I forgot about numbers.  ;D

Oh, and there's also Theta!  :D
6+27+37^2+37^3+37^4+37^5 which is 71270173

Anyway, DJ since L1 is the same size as any one letter long list it doesn't matter there.  Actually since you can omit the little list L when storing a whole list to it, it will actually be smaller! ;D
Oh, and the L1 to L6 tokens are 2 bytes so you'd only waste 200 bytes of RAM.   :)
Does this make sense?
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Re: Lots of Questions (I'm a newb ^_^)
« Reply #38 on: March 13, 2010, 10:08:10 pm »
oh yeah right I forgot about removing the L thing x.x
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Re: Lots of Questions (I'm a newb ^_^)
« Reply #39 on: March 13, 2010, 10:12:53 pm »
Quote from: ztrumpet on March 13, 2010, 09:55:50 pm
...the L1 to L6 tokens are 2 bytes...

:O Wow i never knew this!  haha you learn something new every day ;D
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Re: Lots of Questions (I'm a newb ^_^)
« Reply #40 on: March 13, 2010, 10:16:03 pm »
Quote from: Builderboy on March 13, 2010, 10:12:53 pm
Quote from: ztrumpet on March 13, 2010, 09:55:50 pm
...the L1 to L6 tokens are 2 bytes...

:O Wow i never knew this!  haha you learn something new every day ;D
Actually all the tokens from the Vars menu, L1 to L6, and u, v, and w are all 2 bytes.  :)
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Re: Lots of Questions (I'm a newb ^_^)
« Reply #41 on: March 13, 2010, 10:35:53 pm »
i wonder why x.x
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