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Re: Why never to use Goto.
« Reply #45 on: February 22, 2011, 11:01:13 pm »
This topic reminds me how I was forced to use Goto to create loops on the TI-81 due to lack of While/Repeat/For() O.O
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Re: Why never to use Goto.
« Reply #46 on: February 24, 2011, 09:10:30 am »
Wow, the TI-81 was pretty limited. It's sad that TI-81 BASIC is still more capable than Nspire BASIC though. :P
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Re: Why never to use Goto.
« Reply #47 on: February 24, 2011, 09:12:11 am »
Quote from: ralphdspam on February 22, 2011, 10:10:50 pm
At school, we have to write these basic programs with terribly unoptimized code. 
I know there are situations where the use of Lbl and Goto is inevitable, but all of those programs use the Goto and Lbl commands as like there is no tomorrow.

Yeah, even though my math teacher actual knows programming, he always, always uses IS<( / Goto instead of a simple For( loop. To keep things simple for everyone else, he says.
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Re: Why never to use Goto.
« Reply #48 on: February 24, 2011, 09:14:09 am »
Wow, I don't think I've ever used IS<(. O.O
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Re: Why never to use Goto.
« Reply #49 on: February 24, 2011, 09:14:49 am »
Casio doesn't have repeat, so it's almost nessecary to have goto to restart the loop from several conditional statements inside of the loop without causing an error (which it will if you use Do-LpWhile or While-WhileEnd
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Re: Why never to use Goto.
« Reply #50 on: February 24, 2011, 09:23:37 am »
Quote from: Art_of_camelot on February 24, 2011, 09:14:09 am
Wow, I don't think I've ever used IS<(. O.O

Me neither. IMHO For( is actually easier to understand :P
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Re: Why never to use Goto.
« Reply #51 on: February 24, 2011, 12:28:13 pm »
Quote from: DJ_O on February 22, 2011, 11:01:13 pm
This topic reminds me how I was forced to use Goto to create loops on the TI-81 due to lack of While/Repeat/For() O.O

Like:

Code: [Select]
0->A
Lbl L
DISP "TRY
A+1->A
If A<100
Then
Goto L
End
Stuff like this?
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Re: Why never to use Goto.
« Reply #52 on: February 24, 2011, 12:34:15 pm »
Quote from: Scout on February 24, 2011, 12:28:13 pm
Quote from: DJ_O on February 22, 2011, 11:01:13 pm
This topic reminds me how I was forced to use Goto to create loops on the TI-81 due to lack of While/Repeat/For() O.O

Like:

Code: [Select]
0->A
Lbl L
DISP "TRY
A+1->A
If A<100
Then
Goto L
End
Stuff like this?
That reminds me of how I code loops in asm. otherwise in BASIC that's how I coded when I first started using the language.
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Re: Why never to use Goto.
« Reply #53 on: February 24, 2011, 02:23:41 pm »
Quote from: Scout on February 24, 2011, 12:28:13 pm
Quote from: DJ_O on February 22, 2011, 11:01:13 pm
This topic reminds me how I was forced to use Goto to create loops on the TI-81 due to lack of While/Repeat/For() O.O

Like:

Code: [Select]
0->A
Lbl L
DISP "TRY
A+1->A
If A<100
Then
Goto L
End
Stuff like this?

Probably with IS>(, I'd imagine.
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Re: Why never to use Goto.
« Reply #54 on: February 24, 2011, 04:04:25 pm »
Quote from: graphmastur on August 09, 2010, 08:31:01 pm
I love Java's break statement. It changed my life. Before, I would just goto out of the loop.

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Re: Why never to use Goto.
« Reply #55 on: February 24, 2011, 04:23:57 pm »
Quote from: Ashbad on February 24, 2011, 04:04:25 pm
Quote from: graphmastur on August 09, 2010, 08:31:01 pm
I love Java's break statement. It changed my life. Before, I would just goto out of the loop.

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Yep. I love the fact that Java doesn't support goto at all but has a break command for when you really need it.
« Last Edit: February 24, 2011, 04:24:07 pm by Deep Thought »
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Re: Why never to use Goto.
« Reply #56 on: February 25, 2011, 03:20:15 am »
Quote from: sjasogun1 on February 24, 2011, 09:14:49 am
Casio doesn't have repeat, so it's almost nessecary to have goto to restart the loop from several conditional statements inside of the loop without causing an error (which it will if you use Do-LpWhile or While-WhileEnd
That sucks. X.x Does Goto cause memory leaks, though?
Quote from: Deep Thought on February 24, 2011, 02:23:41 pm
Quote from: Scout on February 24, 2011, 12:28:13 pm
Quote from: DJ_O on February 22, 2011, 11:01:13 pm
This topic reminds me how I was forced to use Goto to create loops on the TI-81 due to lack of While/Repeat/For() O.O

Like:

Code: [Select]
0->A
Lbl L
DISP "TRY
A+1->A
If A<100
Then
Goto L
End
Stuff like this?

Probably with IS>(, I'd imagine.
With IS>(, indeed. Here's an example:

0->U
Lbl 1
DispHome
DispGraph
IS>(U,5
Goto 1

That's the equivalent of:

For(Z,0,5
Disp
DispGraph
End

Or maybe it was For(Z,0,4, I dunno...
« Last Edit: February 25, 2011, 03:21:29 am by DJ_O »
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Re: Why never to use Goto.
« Reply #57 on: February 25, 2011, 03:32:43 am »
Yes, Goto on a CASIO can leak:

Code: [Select]
Lbl 1
Do
Goto 1

Ends with a lovely Mem ERROR.
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Re: Why never to use Goto.
« Reply #58 on: February 25, 2011, 08:12:13 am »
Is that really a memory leak, though? You're telling the OS to continually allocate memory for Do statements. It's nothing more than infinite nesting. From what I understand, memory leaks are bugs in the code where the interpreter doesn't properly handle the memory allocations. Your example wouldn't count unless that program somehow terminates earlier than it should.
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Re: Why never to use Goto.
« Reply #59 on: February 25, 2011, 08:26:16 am »
Quote from: Qwerty.55 on February 25, 2011, 08:12:13 am
Is that really a memory leak, though? You're telling the OS to continually allocate memory for Do statements. It's nothing more than infinite nesting. From what I understand, memory leaks are bugs in the code where the interpreter doesn't properly handle the memory allocations. Your example wouldn't count unless that program somehow terminates earlier than it should.
His program is an example of what has (incorrectly?) been called a memory leak for a long time in the TI community, but you are right.
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