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Offline mad33tcompynrd

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Help Please
« on: September 23, 2010, 10:53:23 pm »
Hi- I was wondering if I could get some help with this thing.  Whenever I try to drop a rom onto the calculator (great UI btw) it struggles with it for a while before telling me that there isn't enough memory.  What can I do to fix this- if anything? The original rom was less than 256k.
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Re: Help Please
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2010, 10:59:29 pm »
How much ROM/Archive memory is currently free on your calculator? Also, which calculator model is it?
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Re: Help Please
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2010, 11:21:01 pm »
It's an 84+ and I just opened it.  I have done nothing besides trying to load the converted roms.
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Re: Help Please
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2010, 11:34:45 pm »
Do you use TI-Connect? I got an insufficient memory error before, when sending a 49 KB APP, even thought I had 95 KB free. The only way to fix it was to backup your calc content, reset the entire memory, then send everything back to the calc including the APP. It is generally better to send larger archived files first, then the smaller ones.

Another thing: Could you tell us the second part of the serial number on the back of your calc? It should be a letter, a dash then 4 digits and most of the time another letter. Example: my TI-83 Plus (which won't run TI-Boy SE of course) is N-0700A. If the last letter is H or higher, you will not be able to run TI-Boy SE.

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Re: Help Please
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2010, 11:42:33 pm »
Well damn- how did I not notice that?  I have an 'n'.  Oh well- I also picked up an nspire and maybe I can get that to work sometime.  Thanks for the welcome.
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Re: Help Please
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2010, 11:45:50 pm »
Unfortunately the TI-Nspire won't run the emulator either :(, but there is another emulator available if you manage to find a copy of OS 1.1 to install Ndless, which run games even faster and even emulate the GBC. But that's a different story, since you need OS 1.1. There is a version of Ndless 1.7 available but I do not recommend it unless you are kinda experienced with the TI-Nspire. Hopefully it should come out soon.

EDIT: I think you should try the emu on the 84+ anyway. Calc84maniac just told me N calcs never had the emu tested on them. Maybe those could have the original hardware?
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Re: Help Please
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2010, 12:41:40 pm »
knowing TI, I doubt it.  :P
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Re: Help Please
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2010, 02:42:24 pm »
Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on September 23, 2010, 11:45:50 pm
Unfortunately the TI-Nspire won't run the emulator either :(, but there is another emulator available if you manage to find a copy of OS 1.1 to install Ndless, which run games even faster and even emulate the GBC. But that's a different story, since you need OS 1.1. There is a version of Ndless 1.7 available but I do not recommend it unless you are kinda experienced with the TI-Nspire. Hopefully it should come out soon.

EDIT: I think you should try the emu on the 84+ anyway. Calc84maniac just told me N calcs never had the emu tested on them. Maybe those could have the original hardware?

what do you mean by origional hardwear?
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Re: Help Please
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2010, 05:08:39 pm »
The one the 84+ from 2004 to early 2007 had (with all extra RAM pages)
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Re: Help Please
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2010, 10:15:56 am »
Quote from: mad33tcompynrd on September 23, 2010, 11:42:33 pm
Well damn- how did I not notice that?  I have an 'n'.  Oh well- I also picked up an nspire and maybe I can get that to work sometime.  Thanks for the welcome.
An N!  I didn't realize that TI'd gotten another letter. ;D

I'm guessing the reason you couldn't transfer was due to all of TI's language apps that come on the calcs.  You can delete those in the Memory Management/Delete menu, but this doesn't solve the "too new a calc" problem. =\
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Re: Help Please
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2010, 11:04:47 am »
Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on September 23, 2010, 11:34:45 pm
Do you use TI-Connect? I got an insufficient memory error before, when sending a 49 KB APP, even thought I had 95 KB free.
Because of how the OS uses flash memory, this isn't abnormal, though it is annoying. (Apps and programs/appvars/etc. cannot share a sector)

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I made another one :P
It's designed to be run from the homescreen with Asm(
If you have XRAM, the program will return, saying nothing.
If you don't, it'll say FAILED, and then return.
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Re: Help Please
« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2010, 02:04:04 pm »
Ah ok, so I guess in my case, all flash sectors were occupied by stuff. Wouldn't a Garbage Collect fixed it, though? Maybe the programs I had were a bit too large to fit two in one sector, though...
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Re: Help Please
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2010, 02:27:30 pm »
Garbage collect might fix it. And it's not that two programs/appvars/etc. can't be put into one sector (that'd be awful ;D), it's that those and apps cannot be in the same sector. This means that you could have 63KB of Archive free, but be unable to send even a one-page app because 1KB of that sector contains a program/appvar/etc.
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Re: Help Please
« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2010, 02:46:44 pm »
Yeah I meant if I had a small program in each sectors. In my case the Garbage Collect did not fix it and I had to reset all memory x.x
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Re: Help Please
« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2011, 09:08:16 pm »
I have a ti-84 plus SilverEdition, and when I try to use Ti-Boy it won't work! :banghead: Help me I am confused! :mad:
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