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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #600 on: December 16, 2009, 09:44:24 pm »
Yeah, the issue is that many people bought their calc recently. However, maybe the recession have made many people buy used calcs (online, maybe) or borrow the school ones, so maybe that could help too. Also, sometimes, people just use their bro/sis calc to save money, so bigger chances to have a calc from prior the Nspire release, meaning a non-fail model
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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #601 on: December 17, 2009, 01:38:24 pm »
I still don't know why the N-Spire 84+ isn't suitable for TI-Boy SE... :(
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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #602 on: December 17, 2009, 01:54:47 pm »
Quote from: ZagorNBK on December 17, 2009, 01:38:24 pm
I still don't know why the N-Spire 84+ isn't suitable for TI-Boy SE... :(
I think the problem lies with the fact that the N-Spire only emulates a z80, and that it doesn't emulate the extra ("undocumented", though they've been well-documented for years :D) commands.
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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #603 on: December 17, 2009, 07:39:26 pm »
Is there a way to determine ahead of time whether a game will work on the older calculators?
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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #604 on: December 17, 2009, 08:07:24 pm »
On the back of the calculator is the serial number.

For example,
2635016775 P-0509H

The only calculators that pass have a "P" where the P is in this example serial, and also, there CANNOT be an "H" where the H is in the example.
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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #605 on: December 17, 2009, 08:18:58 pm »
Quote from: Seren on December 17, 2009, 08:07:24 pm
On the back of the calculator is the serial number.

For example,
2635016775 P-0509H

The only calculators that pass have a "P" where the P is in this example serial, and also, there CANNOT be an "H" where the H is in the example.
Accully they cannot be a "H" or letter farther in the alphabet and non-"P"s before "H" also work.
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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #606 on: December 18, 2009, 03:05:53 pm »
Quote from: simplethinker on December 17, 2009, 01:54:47 pm
Quote from: ZagorNBK on December 17, 2009, 01:38:24 pm
I still don't know why the N-Spire 84+ isn't suitable for TI-Boy SE... :(
I think the problem lies with the fact that the N-Spire only emulates a z80, and that it doesn't emulate the extra ("undocumented", though they've been well-documented for years :D) commands.
I know that, but you can replace the undocumented commands with others that work (even if it means writing more code). So why can't calc84maniac do that? Is there something else that prevents from executing it on the N-Spire?
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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #607 on: December 18, 2009, 03:32:05 pm »
I also doubt the 84+ emulator on the Nspire supports some of the more complex memory mapping that I use.
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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #608 on: December 18, 2009, 05:04:58 pm »
Quote from: calc84maniac on December 16, 2009, 09:26:49 pm
Well, it's not quite that bad. TI-83+ Silver works, and TI-84+ works with smaller games.

I was referring to this post when I asked if you could tell ahead of time which games will work on older calculators. I was wondering if you could tell which games would work on 83+SE or 84+ calculators, not the 84+SE. I already know about that one.
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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #609 on: December 18, 2009, 05:14:21 pm »
Quote from: brianbdm on December 18, 2009, 05:04:58 pm
Quote from: calc84maniac on December 16, 2009, 09:26:49 pm
Well, it's not quite that bad. TI-83+ Silver works, and TI-84+ works with smaller games.

I was referring to this post when I asked if you could tell ahead of time which games will work on older calculators. I was wondering if you could tell which games would work on 83+SE or 84+ calculators, not the 84+SE. I already know about that one.
It has to do with the rom size.
 512KB and 1024 KB rom file fits on TI-84+SE and TI-83+SE (with few archive space left) but not in the TI-84+.
 Just compare the size of the rom and the total memory of calc.
EDIT: lol calcmaniac. I was faster by matter of seconds and hopefully my answer is correct.
« Last Edit: December 18, 2009, 05:19:08 pm by Galandros »
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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #610 on: December 18, 2009, 05:14:57 pm »
Quote from: brianbdm on December 18, 2009, 05:04:58 pm
Quote from: calc84maniac on December 16, 2009, 09:26:49 pm
Well, it's not quite that bad. TI-83+ Silver works, and TI-84+ works with smaller games.

I was referring to this post when I asked if you could tell ahead of time which games will work on older calculators. I was wondering if you could tell which games would work on 83+SE or 84+ calculators, not the 84+SE. I already know about that one.
Anything that works on a good 84+SE should work on an 83+SE. A good 84+ should be able to play ROMs of size 256KB or less.
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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #611 on: December 18, 2009, 08:24:39 pm »
Quote from: ZagorNBK on December 18, 2009, 03:05:53 pm
Quote from: simplethinker on December 17, 2009, 01:54:47 pm
Quote from: ZagorNBK on December 17, 2009, 01:38:24 pm
I still don't know why the N-Spire 84+ isn't suitable for TI-Boy SE... :(
I think the problem lies with the fact that the N-Spire only emulates a z80, and that it doesn't emulate the extra ("undocumented", though they've been well-documented for years :D) commands.
I know that, but you can replace the undocumented commands with others that work (even if it means writing more code). So why can't calc84maniac do that? Is there something else that prevents from executing it on the N-Spire?
It would most likely run much slower.
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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #612 on: December 19, 2009, 02:39:58 pm »
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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #613 on: December 19, 2009, 04:56:28 pm »
Hey, at least when we get ARM assembly running on the Nspire, you can have a nice alternative with full speed and graphics. :)
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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #614 on: December 20, 2009, 11:01:41 am »
But I'll have to wait for that... :(
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