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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #735 on: October 20, 2010, 04:40:59 pm »
Cool.  How many games (like Pokemon) will never make it to the newer calcs? :-\
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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #736 on: October 20, 2010, 04:42:06 pm »
Any game that uses more than 8KB of save ram. I really don't know of any other than Pokemon, but I'm sure there are some out there somewhere
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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #737 on: October 20, 2010, 04:45:58 pm »
How much wear on the flash ROM do you think saving RAM to flash will have?
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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #738 on: October 20, 2010, 06:17:11 pm »
How much wear on the flash ROM do you think saving RAM to flash will have?
If this becomes possible but would require extra sectors, I'd still like an option as to whether RAM is backed up ;)
I could see it as useful. though.
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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #739 on: October 25, 2010, 09:17:16 pm »
so, I hear that another unused 64 kb of memory was discovered, how usefull is that?

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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #740 on: October 25, 2010, 09:18:49 pm »
It's flash, and it was not just "discovered". I personally didn't know about it before, yeah, but it's useful
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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #741 on: October 25, 2010, 09:20:13 pm »
aww, it's flash? I guess that will wear out the rom chip too :/

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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #742 on: October 25, 2010, 09:20:59 pm »
aww, it's flash? I guess that will wear out the rom chip too :/
No more than the TI-OS would wear out the swap sector, I'd imagine.
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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #743 on: October 25, 2010, 09:22:41 pm »
Oh, so it would not make a difference? I am a bit confused on the subject.

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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #744 on: October 28, 2010, 06:11:50 pm »
The "extra" memory is flash that TI reserved for storing more OS code, but TI doesn't use it. In fact, they're far from using it. You can't use it for long-term storage because TI has code that erases at certain times, but it's fine for use as temporary storage. And he's got a point. Considering how much the swap sector gets programmed/erased during a garbage collect cycle, it can't be any worse.
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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #745 on: October 30, 2010, 01:02:34 pm »
w00000t me and calc84's teamwork helped create an app that plays castlevania adventure on my extra-ramless calc :D
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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #746 on: October 30, 2010, 01:11:38 pm »
Yeah, the problems were fixed once I used normal flash writing (no Fast Mode). Programming bytes in Fast Mode on his calc worked just fine, but there seemed to be some sort of problem when erasing a sector after using Fast Mode.
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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #747 on: October 30, 2010, 01:32:03 pm »
hmm, calc84, I was wondering, how hard is it for you to convert ROMs into the apps that work on my calc? and how do you do it? from scratch?

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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #748 on: October 30, 2010, 06:59:50 pm »
Yeah, the problems were fixed once I used normal flash writing (no Fast Mode). Programming bytes in Fast Mode on his calc worked just fine, but there seemed to be some sort of problem when erasing a sector after using Fast Mode.
Aren't you supposed to exit from Fast Mode first, as the documentation says? Or did you, and then it didn't work? ???
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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #749 on: October 30, 2010, 07:56:17 pm »
Yeah, the problems were fixed once I used normal flash writing (no Fast Mode). Programming bytes in Fast Mode on his calc worked just fine, but there seemed to be some sort of problem when erasing a sector after using Fast Mode.
Aren't you supposed to exit from Fast Mode first, as the documentation says? Or did you, and then it didn't work? ???
I did, and it worked on my calc (and some other older calcs), but apparently not on qazz's newer calc.
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