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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #495 on: October 07, 2009, 09:40:45 pm »
Ticalc is the newest one. Well, actually, they're the same. :P
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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #496 on: October 07, 2009, 10:02:24 pm »
They looked different. The one I got from here said
Space.8xk (4 pages) was  successfully generated!
The one at ticalc said
Pass one...
Pass two...
done.
What does the 4 pages mean, anyways?
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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #497 on: October 07, 2009, 10:09:26 pm »
Each page is 16384 bytes (16KB) large. APPs have to be a multiple of that number of bytes.

And Alpha 0.0.3 has been released a couple weeks ago on ticalc (the topic got sort of ignored though)
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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #498 on: October 07, 2009, 10:41:09 pm »
So, what happens if it isn't a multiple of that?
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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #499 on: October 07, 2009, 11:08:58 pm »
The rest is left unused. This is due to the way the memory is laid out on the calculator (in pages). The Game Boy had a similar system.
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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #500 on: October 07, 2009, 11:20:05 pm »
I just wish that the ram pages are still there in newer 84+SE, just not documented or whatever, and that TI didn't just throw out the extra ram pages when switching the chip. I wanna play the games so bad!!!!


Spoiler For funny life mathematics:
1. ROMANCE MATHEMATICS
Smart man + smart woman = romance
Smart man + dumb woman = affair
Dumb man + smart woman = marriage
Dumb man + dumb woman = pregnancy
2. OFFICE ARITHMETIC
Smart boss + smart employee = profit
Smart boss + dumb employee = production
Dumb boss + smart employee = promotion
Dumb boss + dumb employee = overtime
3. SHOPPING MATH
A man will pay $2 for a $1 item he needs.
A woman will pay $1 for a $2 item that she doesn't need.
4. GENERAL EQUATIONS & STATISTICS
A woman worries about the future until she gets a husband.
A man never worries about the future until he gets a wife.
A successful man is one who makes more money than his wife can spend.
A successful woman is one who can find such a man.
5. HAPPINESS
To be happy with a man, you must understand him a lot and love him a little.
To be happy with a woman, you must love her a lot and not try to understand her at all.
6. LONGEVITY
Married men live longer than single men do, but married men are a lot more willing to die.
7. PROPENSITY TO CHANGE
A woman marries a man expecting he will change, but he doesn't.
A man marries a woman expecting that she won't change, and she does.
8. DISCUSSION TECHNIQUE
A woman has the last word in any argument.
Anything a man says after that is the beginning of a new argument.

Girls = Time * Money (Girls are a combination of time and money)
Time = Money (Time is money)
Girls = Money squared (So, girls are money squared)
Money = sqrt(Evil) (Money is also the root of all evil)
Girls = sqrt(Evil) squared (So, girls are the root of all evil squared)
Girls = Evil (Thus, girls are evil)
*Girls=Evil credit goes to Compynerd255*

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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #501 on: October 07, 2009, 11:41:56 pm »
So, there's less RAM in the newer calculators? I got that there's something different about the RAM in the newer ones, but I don't quite understand what it is. Are the older ones better over all, or just for using the emulator?
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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #502 on: October 07, 2009, 11:45:34 pm »
The newer ones seem to have less RAM, however we're not completely sure yet. But only programs that try to use this extra RAM should be affected, like TI-Boy and Realsound. Otherwise these calculators seem to be just fine.
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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #503 on: October 07, 2009, 11:55:02 pm »
So, there's less RAM in the newer calculators? I got that there's something different about the RAM in the newer ones, but I don't quite understand what it is. Are the older ones better over all, or just for using the emulator?

I heard that the newer calcs are slightly (like 0.2 MHz) faster, or something like that in one of the posts where it compared each hardware versions and such.


Spoiler For funny life mathematics:
1. ROMANCE MATHEMATICS
Smart man + smart woman = romance
Smart man + dumb woman = affair
Dumb man + smart woman = marriage
Dumb man + dumb woman = pregnancy
2. OFFICE ARITHMETIC
Smart boss + smart employee = profit
Smart boss + dumb employee = production
Dumb boss + smart employee = promotion
Dumb boss + dumb employee = overtime
3. SHOPPING MATH
A man will pay $2 for a $1 item he needs.
A woman will pay $1 for a $2 item that she doesn't need.
4. GENERAL EQUATIONS & STATISTICS
A woman worries about the future until she gets a husband.
A man never worries about the future until he gets a wife.
A successful man is one who makes more money than his wife can spend.
A successful woman is one who can find such a man.
5. HAPPINESS
To be happy with a man, you must understand him a lot and love him a little.
To be happy with a woman, you must love her a lot and not try to understand her at all.
6. LONGEVITY
Married men live longer than single men do, but married men are a lot more willing to die.
7. PROPENSITY TO CHANGE
A woman marries a man expecting he will change, but he doesn't.
A man marries a woman expecting that she won't change, and she does.
8. DISCUSSION TECHNIQUE
A woman has the last word in any argument.
Anything a man says after that is the beginning of a new argument.

Girls = Time * Money (Girls are a combination of time and money)
Time = Money (Time is money)
Girls = Money squared (So, girls are money squared)
Money = sqrt(Evil) (Money is also the root of all evil)
Girls = sqrt(Evil) squared (So, girls are the root of all evil squared)
Girls = Evil (Thus, girls are evil)
*Girls=Evil credit goes to Compynerd255*

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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #504 on: October 08, 2009, 10:47:13 pm »
You mentioned  the last letter of the serial number that has enough RAM to run it. Which kind of calculator is that for? The 83, 83+, 84+, or 84+SE? Or is it the same for all of them? I'm getting an 84+SE, providing I can find a good one. I'll probably have to look on EBAY for one.

BTW, on your F-Zero game, do you use a tiling system to make the maps (/tracks)? That would sound like the best way to save space. ~I love the 3D engine.
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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #505 on: October 08, 2009, 11:04:32 pm »
This applies to 84+ and 84+SE. However, the TI-83 and TI-83+ never had that RAM in the first place, so TI-boy won't work on them.

And I do use tiles in F-Zero. :)
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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #506 on: October 08, 2009, 11:15:41 pm »
If you use a tiling system, it might be easy to make a level editor for people to make their own tracks. Is that a possibility? Could you give a rough time estimate as to when it will be done? It looks really cool!

So many cool things have been developed in the past couple of months. Right now I'm reading in to what the key signing thing is. It sounds cool, but I don't understand it. ^^ I'm trying to catch up on all this stuff.
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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #507 on: October 08, 2009, 11:29:21 pm »
I think it might be easy, but I think it will come after game is finished, like with Project M. It would be cool, though, altough I wonder if it would work well with the computer AI, though?

As for calc dev, it seems the community is doing some sort of comeback this year in terms of releases and awesome projects. The last time I saw 5 programs featured in one month on Ticalc.org is in October 2004, during the calc craze caused by the TI-84+/89T release

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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #508 on: October 08, 2009, 11:33:37 pm »
I liked the Chip's Challenge game for the 83. Everybody in my school remembers playing that game in our free time in the computer lab. But they don't have it there any more. So now I'm giving it to everybody. They love it!

Say, do you think there would be any way to turn my NSpire OS into an actual 84? And what exactly is involved in making something work on the NSpire, like F-Zero? And why do some things work just fine?
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Re: TI-Boy SE
« Reply #509 on: October 09, 2009, 12:00:49 am »
The TI-Nspire alerady has 84+ mode. Just swap the keyboards (it comes with the TI-Nspire keyboard and a TI-84+ one, unless you got scammed) and then your TI-Nspire becomes a TI-84+. It's what I used to make my game Illusiat 13 which I still haven't finished. Some stuff will not work fine or require patches, though, as it's just like a TI-84+ emulator