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ndless ideas
« on: December 07, 2011, 02:48:14 pm »
hi everyone.
with the release of ndless near, i want to start brainstorming some ideas. maybe we can create some new projects in c, while extended is creating ndless 3.0. then when ndless is released, we can have more awesome stuff to do on our calc.
I have an idea for an ndless program called lua nHancer. it lets you run lua scripts in full screen and also speeds up the framerate of the lua script (you will probably have to create a double file extension, like nfighter.lua.tns) . so you can get rid of that annoying ghost that makes you fire five seconds after you press the button. and, i thought of a program that compresses files on your ti-nspire when you are not using them. it's a little idea i call nZipper.
I will probably start on these projects after a take c tutorials.
so now that i have started the topic, let's brainstorm!
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Re: ndless ideas
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2011, 02:53:52 pm »
I'll probably port my tile map editor to it and have it actually save files on calc.

Also, I might have a few other ideas for platformers, RTS's, etc :P

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Re: ndless ideas
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2011, 08:26:42 pm »
have a nice title screen
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Re: ndless ideas
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2011, 01:30:25 pm »
I'm not sure I will succeed, but I will try to port my 3D engine to C, and then I'll try to make a mini-minecraft. Just because I like the idea.

And a nice TI-z80 emulator would be great.
Also, maybe a java interpreter ? (like Khavi for the prizm)
But since I don't know anything about ASM, I won't try to do these 2 projects.

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Re: ndless ideas
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2011, 01:39:41 pm »
Just found this thread.

http://ourl.ca/8791

Seems pretty promising for Java on an Nspire :D

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Re: ndless ideas
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2011, 10:05:15 pm »
One of the things that we should really, really focus on is making a very versatile API for ndless, in form of a library.
You will be in a big shock if you are transitioning from Lua - the C API for ndless (Nspire) development is VERY different - you must manage the screen manually, no gc:paint() or anything of the sort. Pixel by pixel. Not very fun, right? Key management is very different too, but that's another story...

Therefore, we need some libraries to make all of this easier for the poor little developer! (Notice that the few programs that are out there are written by some very, very good devs, not ordinary ones that have been seen with the burst of activity from the introduction of Nspire Lua.)

Word after word gets boring, and so I made this pretty little diagram to show you what I'd like to get done. (I was terribly bored when I did this :P)


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Re: ndless ideas
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2011, 11:15:39 pm »
I would think that nSDL covers nDraw's more advanced drawing, and ndless already gave buffer access.

Also, I was thinking: How hard would it really be to interface to the 84+ emu inside the nspires? I bet we could (without providing warez ofc) take the 84+ img and code off of an OS upgrade, and have an ndless prog load theirs! It's not much, but it is a start. At least theirs exists at the moment. That method would also allow for loading diff. OS versions as well as diff models of calc.
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Re: ndless ideas
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2011, 12:07:17 pm »
I would think that nSDL covers nDraw's more advanced drawing, and ndless already gave buffer access.
Yup - nDraw is very low-level stuff, so only the "simple stuff" will be handled. A driver (or port) for [n]SDL will be using the nDraw interface, since I'd like to be able to mix GUIs and amazing GFX (aka SDL). (This corresponds to the window/layer mgmt system in nDraw.) nDraw is simply the foundation for Tk and SDL drawing. :)

I should clarify that by nDraw's "screen buffer access" I mean easier to use APIs to manipulate the screen buffer. You can access the screen buffer directly as offered by the ndless API - I will also have a function to return the buffer's location as well.

Also, I was thinking: How hard would it really be to interface to the 84+ emu inside the nspires? I bet we could (without providing warez ofc) take the 84+ img and code off of an OS upgrade, and have an ndless prog load theirs! It's not much, but it is a start. At least theirs exists at the moment. That method would also allow for loading diff. OS versions as well as diff models of calc.
Ehh... I think I'll pass and take a not-so-buggy TI-8x ndless based emulator instead. ;) Besides, the old emulator would not work with the new CX anyway...
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Re: ndless ideas
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2011, 10:21:51 pm »
Hey guys. I was thinking about something as I was riding home in the car. 3d gaming on the nspire is limited to raycasting, but if someone were to make a 3d sprite, and rotate it while snapping pictures, you could program it into a 360 degree viewer, at least. Now, how you would program it into a game, I don't know, it would probably be impossible.
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Re: ndless ideas
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2011, 05:18:06 pm »
Who says it's limited to raycasting? We could do real 3D modeling, it would just be slow.

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Re: ndless ideas
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2011, 05:16:56 am »
Levak has a 3D modeler (make3D) in Lua, and is has quite some features (and its that slow) ;)

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Re: ndless ideas
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2011, 09:07:04 pm »
Wasn't it in nspire Basic before? I'm sure it was an improvement.

Also, njaddison that's basically how a raycaster works: Rotate a wall sprite to the appropriate angle and render it.

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Re: ndless ideas
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2011, 09:11:02 pm »
How about GBA emulator so I can play me some harvest moon? :D
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« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2011, 09:11:28 pm »
nah doom and fire emblem and f-zero
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Re: ndless ideas
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2011, 09:13:01 pm »
well, then. SNES emulator.
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