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Title: TI NSpire CX Linux Adventures (Arch Linux with X11, internet, audio)
Post by: tehahb98 on March 26, 2018, 09:36:12 am
Hello!

I wanted to show off my adventures with running Linux on the TI NSpire CX.
So, I made a video demonstrating it!

This Linux install is running Arch Linux ARM, and has a fully functional X11 install, complete with Openbox for window management and Tint2 as a panel.

Additionally, it also has full networking and audio capabilities.
This is demonstrated with a lightweight web browser (Dillo).


This is a list of all of the hardware in the USB bundle of joy:
To explain why I strapped on an entire router instead of just using a wireless USB card: I don't have a wireless USB card that has decent Linux support lying around anywhere, so this was simply easier. There is no other reason.
Calculator hardware:
- TI NSpire CX (Revision J)
- 64MB RAM
- 198Mhz CPU

Calculator software:
- 4.4.0.532 (CAS version)
- Boot1 Version: 3.0.0.99
- Boot2 Version: 4.0.3.49
- Ndless 4.4.0
- nBoot 3.0.0.99
- ControlX 4.4.3
Kernel settings required for alsa/sound:
CONFIG_SOUND
CONFIG_SND
CONFIG_SND_USB_AUDIO
CONFIG_SYSVIPC

Kernel settings required for AX88179 USB ethernet:
CONFIG_USB_NET_AX88179_178A
The TI NSpire CX uses a ARMv5 processor (Little endian) with soft floats.
That being said, to install Arch Linux you can use any ARMv5te rootfs from ArchLinuxARM.
The image that has best compatibility with the NSpire is the kirkwood builds.
You can find that here: http://os.archlinuxarm.org/os/ArchLinuxARM-kirkwood-latest.tar.gz (http://os.archlinuxarm.org/os/ArchLinuxARM-kirkwood-latest.tar.gz)

To install, simply extract it to a USB drive and boot from USB as you would any other.
During the process, there was a few minor difficulties.
The most notable one is that my calculator got soft bricked after a reboot from Linux once.
The calculator was stuck on this screen.
Spoiler For Spoiler:
(https://i.imgur.com/eBzooerl.jpg)
I reset the calculator numerous times to no avail. I then reset the OS a whopping 3 times, and it still wouldn't boot.
Lastly, I unplugged the calculator's battery and cold booted it. That fixed it!
Here are some awesome pictures taken during the adventure!
Spoiler For Spoiler:
(https://i.imgur.com/XcO6LT4l.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/spfIq4sl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/YFfHNfdl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/WGbg65l.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/sWd8Etcl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/0Jhhp3tl.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/aQ1yqiMl.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/FCe8JKRl.png)

I hope you enjoyed the ramblings of a madman. If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
Title: Re: TI NSpire CX Linux Adventures (Arch Linux with X11, internet, audio)
Post by: Eeems on March 26, 2018, 10:37:36 am
So I noticed that your video has lots of variations in speed. How long does it actually take to start X? How slow/laggy is the mouse, and Dillo?
Title: Re: TI NSpire CX Linux Adventures (Arch Linux with X11, internet, audio)
Post by: tehahb98 on March 26, 2018, 07:20:09 pm
Quote from: Eeems on March 26, 2018, 10:37:36 am
So I noticed that your video has lots of variations in speed. How long does it actually take to start X? How slow/laggy is the mouse, and Dillo?

The raw uncut footage is 10 minutes long.
Title: Re: TI NSpire CX Linux Adventures (Arch Linux with X11, internet, audio)
Post by: Eeems on March 26, 2018, 11:07:58 pm
And how slow/laggy is the mouse, and Dillo?
Title: Re: TI NSpire CX Linux Adventures (Arch Linux with X11, internet, audio)
Post by: tehahb98 on March 26, 2018, 11:51:55 pm
Quote from: Eeems on March 26, 2018, 11:07:58 pm
And how slow/laggy is the mouse, and Dillo?

The mouse skips around, but it's not that bad. Only a little bit slower than the mouse on standard operating system.

Dillo actually works fine, the only problem is lack of screen real estate. Also, loading pages is a bit slow, but after it's loaded scrolling around is flawless.
Title: Re: TI NSpire CX Linux Adventures (Arch Linux with X11, internet, audio)
Post by: aeTIos on March 27, 2018, 02:25:20 am
Wow that's really impressive. I'm gonna watch how this develops. Do you intend to do anything with it?
Title: Re: TI NSpire CX Linux Adventures (Arch Linux with X11, internet, audio)
Post by: tehahb98 on March 27, 2018, 03:13:48 am
Quote from: aeTIos on March 27, 2018, 02:25:20 am
Wow that's really impressive. I'm gonna watch how this develops. Do you intend to do anything with it?

I plan to optimize for screen space in the future, so it can be more usable.
Title: Re: TI NSpire CX Linux Adventures (Arch Linux with X11, internet, audio)
Post by: Jonson26 on March 29, 2018, 03:11:17 pm
That's really nice! But you definitely need to resize those icon in dillo! It would be much easier to use.
Bit unrelated: It's quite sad, that Punix never got finished... Maybe we could have gotten something simillar for the 68k platform (which is WAAYYY better than the nspire in terms of programming - there is even a on-calc c compiler for it!). :(
Title: Re: TI NSpire CX Linux Adventures (Arch Linux with X11, internet, audio)
Post by: Eeems on March 29, 2018, 03:14:40 pm
Quote from: Jonson26 on March 29, 2018, 03:11:17 pm
That's really nice! But you definitely need to resize those icon in dillo! It would be much easier to use.
Bit unrelated: It's quite sad, that Punix never got finished... Maybe we could have gotten something simillar for the 68k platform (which is WAAYYY better than the nspire in terms of programming - there is even a on-calc c compiler for it!). :(
With linux you can also have an on calc c compiler.
Title: Re: TI NSpire CX Linux Adventures (Arch Linux with X11, internet, audio)
Post by: Jonson26 on March 29, 2018, 03:29:12 pm
I know, but gtc was for AMS(ti-os).
besides, the nspire screen is smaller than the v200/92(p). I imagine it could be quite hard to see your code on your nspire. (Unless sombody manages to use a usb graphics card with it.  :P)
Title: Re: TI NSpire CX Linux Adventures (Arch Linux with X11, internet, audio)
Post by: TIfanx1999 on March 30, 2018, 06:24:57 pm
Quote from: Jonson26 on March 29, 2018, 03:29:12 pm
besides, the nspire screen is smaller than the v200/92(p). I imagine it could be quite hard to see your code on your nspire. (Unless sombody manages to use a usb graphics card with it.  :P)
The V200/92+ does have a bigger screen, but not by that much. On the flip side, the nsipre has color as opposed to black and white on the 92+ series, and the nspire has a higher resolution.
Title: Re: TI NSpire CX Linux Adventures (Arch Linux with X11, internet, audio)
Post by: Hooloovoo on May 04, 2018, 12:28:52 am
Quote from: tehahb98 on March 26, 2018, 09:36:12 am
Kernel settings required for alsa/sound:
CONFIG_SOUND
CONFIG_SND
CONFIG_SND_USB_AUDIO
CONFIG_SYSVIPC

Kernel settings required for AX88179 USB ethernet:
CONFIG_USB_NET_AX88179_178A

I'm having trouble getting my kernel to give me any graphics. Can you post your kernel config? What kernel version are you using?
Title: Re: TI NSpire CX Linux Adventures (Arch Linux with X11, internet, audio)
Post by: Ferchu on July 15, 2018, 08:52:15 pm
Thanks for sharing what you did!
Title: Re: TI NSpire CX Linux Adventures (Arch Linux with X11, internet, audio)
Post by: Vsod99 on September 05, 2018, 04:27:39 pm
So I'm trying to follow how you're powering the USB hub here so you don't overdraw from the calculator's port...

If I'm understanding correctly, the y splitter only really serves the purpose of providing power to the calculator while having peripherals connected. So how are you powering the hub itself?



Edit: Nevermind. I figured it out, I'm just stupid.
Title: Re: TI NSpire CX Linux Adventures (Arch Linux with X11, internet, audio)
Post by: zaoqi on October 28, 2018, 04:46:44 am
How to boot from USB and build kernel?