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[Contest] TI Siege
« on: June 04, 2012, 04:36:33 am »
Hi guys, I'm working on this turn based strategy game, for z80 BASIC contest.

It will feature 4 different types of units that you can make/move/attack with on a 4x12 sized open map.

The gameplay is relatively simple and fast: destroy opponent's base.

Eye candy should be up shortly :P
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1. ROMANCE MATHEMATICS
Smart man + smart woman = romance
Smart man + dumb woman = affair
Dumb man + smart woman = marriage
Dumb man + dumb woman = pregnancy
2. OFFICE ARITHMETIC
Smart boss + smart employee = profit
Smart boss + dumb employee = production
Dumb boss + smart employee = promotion
Dumb boss + dumb employee = overtime
3. SHOPPING MATH
A man will pay $2 for a $1 item he needs.
A woman will pay $1 for a $2 item that she doesn't need.
4. GENERAL EQUATIONS & STATISTICS
A woman worries about the future until she gets a husband.
A man never worries about the future until he gets a wife.
A successful man is one who makes more money than his wife can spend.
A successful woman is one who can find such a man.
5. HAPPINESS
To be happy with a man, you must understand him a lot and love him a little.
To be happy with a woman, you must love her a lot and not try to understand her at all.
6. LONGEVITY
Married men live longer than single men do, but married men are a lot more willing to die.
7. PROPENSITY TO CHANGE
A woman marries a man expecting he will change, but he doesn't.
A man marries a woman expecting that she won't change, and she does.
8. DISCUSSION TECHNIQUE
A woman has the last word in any argument.
Anything a man says after that is the beginning of a new argument.

Girls = Time * Money (Girls are a combination of time and money)
Time = Money (Time is money)
Girls = Money squared (So, girls are money squared)
Money = sqrt(Evil) (Money is also the root of all evil)
Girls = sqrt(Evil) squared (So, girls are the root of all evil squared)
Girls = Evil (Thus, girls are evil)
*Girls=Evil credit goes to Compynerd255*

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Re: [Contest] TI Siege
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2012, 04:54:03 am »
i love eye candies :)

wow, it might look simple, but it's hard to program i guess.. will the opponent attack you too, or just make itself defend?
it's gonna be nice if it'll run as you say, those games are cool :)

but isn't 4*12 a little small, or will the player be on the left side and the AI on the right?
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Re: [Contest] TI Siege
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2012, 05:13:13 am »
Quote from: Nick on June 04, 2012, 04:54:03 am
i love eye candies :)

wow, it might look simple, but it's hard to program i guess.. will the opponent attack you too, or just make itself defend?
it's gonna be nice if it'll run as you say, those games are cool :)

but isn't 4*12 a little small, or will the player be on the left side and the AI on the right?

Opponent will attack for sure :)
And player is going to be on the left and AI on the right, and actually the map is 4*14, but the leftmost tiles are your base and rightmost tiles are AI's base.

Resource-wise, there isn't much in this game, and currently you start out with 10 gold and you gain 3 gold each turn, and units cost between 4~10 gold. Each game should not last more than 10 minutes, so it's pretty short also.
It's like overly simplified chess, in a sense.

4 types of units are:
► Infantry
} Archer
Σ Cavalry
≥ Loaded catapult
> Unloaded catapult
« Last Edit: June 04, 2012, 10:41:53 am by jsj795 »
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1. ROMANCE MATHEMATICS
Smart man + smart woman = romance
Smart man + dumb woman = affair
Dumb man + smart woman = marriage
Dumb man + dumb woman = pregnancy
2. OFFICE ARITHMETIC
Smart boss + smart employee = profit
Smart boss + dumb employee = production
Dumb boss + smart employee = promotion
Dumb boss + dumb employee = overtime
3. SHOPPING MATH
A man will pay $2 for a $1 item he needs.
A woman will pay $1 for a $2 item that she doesn't need.
4. GENERAL EQUATIONS & STATISTICS
A woman worries about the future until she gets a husband.
A man never worries about the future until he gets a wife.
A successful man is one who makes more money than his wife can spend.
A successful woman is one who can find such a man.
5. HAPPINESS
To be happy with a man, you must understand him a lot and love him a little.
To be happy with a woman, you must love her a lot and not try to understand her at all.
6. LONGEVITY
Married men live longer than single men do, but married men are a lot more willing to die.
7. PROPENSITY TO CHANGE
A woman marries a man expecting he will change, but he doesn't.
A man marries a woman expecting that she won't change, and she does.
8. DISCUSSION TECHNIQUE
A woman has the last word in any argument.
Anything a man says after that is the beginning of a new argument.

Girls = Time * Money (Girls are a combination of time and money)
Time = Money (Time is money)
Girls = Money squared (So, girls are money squared)
Money = sqrt(Evil) (Money is also the root of all evil)
Girls = sqrt(Evil) squared (So, girls are the root of all evil squared)
Girls = Evil (Thus, girls are evil)
*Girls=Evil credit goes to Compynerd255*

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Re: [Contest] TI Siege
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2012, 05:47:27 am »
nice :) i like it how you make use of the characters, with a bit of imagination they're chosen really good!

and it seems like you already coded if in understand correctly?

hmm, but i would start with a little more money, you can only buy 2 of the cheapest (prob infantery) units for that.. but you choose
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Re: [Contest] TI Siege
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2012, 05:49:33 am »
I'm in the middle of coding right now :P And the cost of the unit and the starting gold, as well as gold you earn per turn is not yet set in stone, since I would have to balance it out after playtesting it through many times.
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Spoiler For funny life mathematics:
1. ROMANCE MATHEMATICS
Smart man + smart woman = romance
Smart man + dumb woman = affair
Dumb man + smart woman = marriage
Dumb man + dumb woman = pregnancy
2. OFFICE ARITHMETIC
Smart boss + smart employee = profit
Smart boss + dumb employee = production
Dumb boss + smart employee = promotion
Dumb boss + dumb employee = overtime
3. SHOPPING MATH
A man will pay $2 for a $1 item he needs.
A woman will pay $1 for a $2 item that she doesn't need.
4. GENERAL EQUATIONS & STATISTICS
A woman worries about the future until she gets a husband.
A man never worries about the future until he gets a wife.
A successful man is one who makes more money than his wife can spend.
A successful woman is one who can find such a man.
5. HAPPINESS
To be happy with a man, you must understand him a lot and love him a little.
To be happy with a woman, you must love her a lot and not try to understand her at all.
6. LONGEVITY
Married men live longer than single men do, but married men are a lot more willing to die.
7. PROPENSITY TO CHANGE
A woman marries a man expecting he will change, but he doesn't.
A man marries a woman expecting that she won't change, and she does.
8. DISCUSSION TECHNIQUE
A woman has the last word in any argument.
Anything a man says after that is the beginning of a new argument.

Girls = Time * Money (Girls are a combination of time and money)
Time = Money (Time is money)
Girls = Money squared (So, girls are money squared)
Money = sqrt(Evil) (Money is also the root of all evil)
Girls = sqrt(Evil) squared (So, girls are the root of all evil squared)
Girls = Evil (Thus, girls are evil)
*Girls=Evil credit goes to Compynerd255*

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Re: [Contest] TI Siege
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2012, 08:13:36 am »
if it's like advance war, I'll have to think of something else again D:
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Re: [Contest] TI Siege
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2012, 08:59:36 am »
Quote from: yeongJIN_COOL on June 04, 2012, 08:13:36 am
if it's like advance war, I'll have to think of something else again D:

if it's not BASIC, then you should just go with it!
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Spoiler For funny life mathematics:
1. ROMANCE MATHEMATICS
Smart man + smart woman = romance
Smart man + dumb woman = affair
Dumb man + smart woman = marriage
Dumb man + dumb woman = pregnancy
2. OFFICE ARITHMETIC
Smart boss + smart employee = profit
Smart boss + dumb employee = production
Dumb boss + smart employee = promotion
Dumb boss + dumb employee = overtime
3. SHOPPING MATH
A man will pay $2 for a $1 item he needs.
A woman will pay $1 for a $2 item that she doesn't need.
4. GENERAL EQUATIONS & STATISTICS
A woman worries about the future until she gets a husband.
A man never worries about the future until he gets a wife.
A successful man is one who makes more money than his wife can spend.
A successful woman is one who can find such a man.
5. HAPPINESS
To be happy with a man, you must understand him a lot and love him a little.
To be happy with a woman, you must love her a lot and not try to understand her at all.
6. LONGEVITY
Married men live longer than single men do, but married men are a lot more willing to die.
7. PROPENSITY TO CHANGE
A woman marries a man expecting he will change, but he doesn't.
A man marries a woman expecting that she won't change, and she does.
8. DISCUSSION TECHNIQUE
A woman has the last word in any argument.
Anything a man says after that is the beginning of a new argument.

Girls = Time * Money (Girls are a combination of time and money)
Time = Money (Time is money)
Girls = Money squared (So, girls are money squared)
Money = sqrt(Evil) (Money is also the root of all evil)
Girls = sqrt(Evil) squared (So, girls are the root of all evil squared)
Girls = Evil (Thus, girls are evil)
*Girls=Evil credit goes to Compynerd255*

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Re: [Contest] TI Siege
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2012, 10:48:42 am »
So far I got these as stats for units. They're so hard to balance :(

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Map is 4(height)x12(length).

You start out with 25 gold. You gain 3 golds per turn. When your unit is on enemy's land (4x4 area), each unit gives +1 gold per turn.

Archer
Movement 2
Range 3
HP 3
Damage 1
Cost 9

Infantry
Movement 2
Range 1
HP 5
Damage 2
Cost 13
(note: infantry can only move forward or sideways; no backward movement)
(note: infantry can only attack forward and forward diagonal)

Cavalry
Movement 3
Range 1
HP 4
Damage 2
Cost 16
(note: cavalry can attack sideways units, that is, right above or under cavalry's position)

Catapult
Movement 1
Range 3~5
HP 4
Damage 3
Cost 20
Reload 2 gold
(note: catapult takes a turn to reload, and it costs 2 gold. you cannot attack on the turn you reloaded, vise versa)
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Spoiler For funny life mathematics:
1. ROMANCE MATHEMATICS
Smart man + smart woman = romance
Smart man + dumb woman = affair
Dumb man + smart woman = marriage
Dumb man + dumb woman = pregnancy
2. OFFICE ARITHMETIC
Smart boss + smart employee = profit
Smart boss + dumb employee = production
Dumb boss + smart employee = promotion
Dumb boss + dumb employee = overtime
3. SHOPPING MATH
A man will pay $2 for a $1 item he needs.
A woman will pay $1 for a $2 item that she doesn't need.
4. GENERAL EQUATIONS & STATISTICS
A woman worries about the future until she gets a husband.
A man never worries about the future until he gets a wife.
A successful man is one who makes more money than his wife can spend.
A successful woman is one who can find such a man.
5. HAPPINESS
To be happy with a man, you must understand him a lot and love him a little.
To be happy with a woman, you must love her a lot and not try to understand her at all.
6. LONGEVITY
Married men live longer than single men do, but married men are a lot more willing to die.
7. PROPENSITY TO CHANGE
A woman marries a man expecting he will change, but he doesn't.
A man marries a woman expecting that she won't change, and she does.
8. DISCUSSION TECHNIQUE
A woman has the last word in any argument.
Anything a man says after that is the beginning of a new argument.

Girls = Time * Money (Girls are a combination of time and money)
Time = Money (Time is money)
Girls = Money squared (So, girls are money squared)
Money = sqrt(Evil) (Money is also the root of all evil)
Girls = sqrt(Evil) squared (So, girls are the root of all evil squared)
Girls = Evil (Thus, girls are evil)
*Girls=Evil credit goes to Compynerd255*

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Re: [Contest] TI Siege
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2012, 01:36:32 pm »
hm... I'd say make the catapult a bit more powerful/give it a bit more HP, and then drive the cost up a bit
otherwise, it looks pretty balanced.

EDIT: maybe give the catapult a chance to miss the intended block or cause collateral damage?
« Last Edit: June 04, 2012, 01:37:15 pm by turiqwalrus »
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Re: [Contest] TI Siege
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2012, 03:06:54 pm »
Good luck, I love adv-wars types of games. I got really sad when SirCmpwn never finished TI wars...
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Re: [Contest] TI Siege
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2012, 07:09:01 pm »
Quote from: turiqwalrus on June 04, 2012, 01:36:32 pm
hm... I'd say make the catapult a bit more powerful/give it a bit more HP, and then drive the cost up a bit
otherwise, it looks pretty balanced.

EDIT: maybe give the catapult a chance to miss the intended block or cause collateral damage?

Yeah actually I'm thinking of raising the damage of catapult to 4, it was 3 before because the highest HP a unit could have was only 3 before I buffed the overall HP. And raise its HP to 5.

Only problem I see if I buff the catapult is that it might result in a catapult war :(
« Last Edit: June 04, 2012, 07:09:30 pm by jsj795 »
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Spoiler For funny life mathematics:
1. ROMANCE MATHEMATICS
Smart man + smart woman = romance
Smart man + dumb woman = affair
Dumb man + smart woman = marriage
Dumb man + dumb woman = pregnancy
2. OFFICE ARITHMETIC
Smart boss + smart employee = profit
Smart boss + dumb employee = production
Dumb boss + smart employee = promotion
Dumb boss + dumb employee = overtime
3. SHOPPING MATH
A man will pay $2 for a $1 item he needs.
A woman will pay $1 for a $2 item that she doesn't need.
4. GENERAL EQUATIONS & STATISTICS
A woman worries about the future until she gets a husband.
A man never worries about the future until he gets a wife.
A successful man is one who makes more money than his wife can spend.
A successful woman is one who can find such a man.
5. HAPPINESS
To be happy with a man, you must understand him a lot and love him a little.
To be happy with a woman, you must love her a lot and not try to understand her at all.
6. LONGEVITY
Married men live longer than single men do, but married men are a lot more willing to die.
7. PROPENSITY TO CHANGE
A woman marries a man expecting he will change, but he doesn't.
A man marries a woman expecting that she won't change, and she does.
8. DISCUSSION TECHNIQUE
A woman has the last word in any argument.
Anything a man says after that is the beginning of a new argument.

Girls = Time * Money (Girls are a combination of time and money)
Time = Money (Time is money)
Girls = Money squared (So, girls are money squared)
Money = sqrt(Evil) (Money is also the root of all evil)
Girls = sqrt(Evil) squared (So, girls are the root of all evil squared)
Girls = Evil (Thus, girls are evil)
*Girls=Evil credit goes to Compynerd255*

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Re: [Contest] TI Siege
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2012, 09:55:22 pm »
Alright! Here is a promised eye candy :)



I still have some things to straighten out, like actually being able to select the units to move/attack, make new units, few changes to the HUD to make it better, etc.
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Spoiler For funny life mathematics:
1. ROMANCE MATHEMATICS
Smart man + smart woman = romance
Smart man + dumb woman = affair
Dumb man + smart woman = marriage
Dumb man + dumb woman = pregnancy
2. OFFICE ARITHMETIC
Smart boss + smart employee = profit
Smart boss + dumb employee = production
Dumb boss + smart employee = promotion
Dumb boss + dumb employee = overtime
3. SHOPPING MATH
A man will pay $2 for a $1 item he needs.
A woman will pay $1 for a $2 item that she doesn't need.
4. GENERAL EQUATIONS & STATISTICS
A woman worries about the future until she gets a husband.
A man never worries about the future until he gets a wife.
A successful man is one who makes more money than his wife can spend.
A successful woman is one who can find such a man.
5. HAPPINESS
To be happy with a man, you must understand him a lot and love him a little.
To be happy with a woman, you must love her a lot and not try to understand her at all.
6. LONGEVITY
Married men live longer than single men do, but married men are a lot more willing to die.
7. PROPENSITY TO CHANGE
A woman marries a man expecting he will change, but he doesn't.
A man marries a woman expecting that she won't change, and she does.
8. DISCUSSION TECHNIQUE
A woman has the last word in any argument.
Anything a man says after that is the beginning of a new argument.

Girls = Time * Money (Girls are a combination of time and money)
Time = Money (Time is money)
Girls = Money squared (So, girls are money squared)
Money = sqrt(Evil) (Money is also the root of all evil)
Girls = sqrt(Evil) squared (So, girls are the root of all evil squared)
Girls = Evil (Thus, girls are evil)
*Girls=Evil credit goes to Compynerd255*

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Re: [Contest] TI Siege
« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2012, 06:29:32 am »
Triple post with big update:



Unit-making is ready, with improved HUD.
Next up is actual unit movements and attacks.
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Spoiler For funny life mathematics:
1. ROMANCE MATHEMATICS
Smart man + smart woman = romance
Smart man + dumb woman = affair
Dumb man + smart woman = marriage
Dumb man + dumb woman = pregnancy
2. OFFICE ARITHMETIC
Smart boss + smart employee = profit
Smart boss + dumb employee = production
Dumb boss + smart employee = promotion
Dumb boss + dumb employee = overtime
3. SHOPPING MATH
A man will pay $2 for a $1 item he needs.
A woman will pay $1 for a $2 item that she doesn't need.
4. GENERAL EQUATIONS & STATISTICS
A woman worries about the future until she gets a husband.
A man never worries about the future until he gets a wife.
A successful man is one who makes more money than his wife can spend.
A successful woman is one who can find such a man.
5. HAPPINESS
To be happy with a man, you must understand him a lot and love him a little.
To be happy with a woman, you must love her a lot and not try to understand her at all.
6. LONGEVITY
Married men live longer than single men do, but married men are a lot more willing to die.
7. PROPENSITY TO CHANGE
A woman marries a man expecting he will change, but he doesn't.
A man marries a woman expecting that she won't change, and she does.
8. DISCUSSION TECHNIQUE
A woman has the last word in any argument.
Anything a man says after that is the beginning of a new argument.

Girls = Time * Money (Girls are a combination of time and money)
Time = Money (Time is money)
Girls = Money squared (So, girls are money squared)
Money = sqrt(Evil) (Money is also the root of all evil)
Girls = sqrt(Evil) squared (So, girls are the root of all evil squared)
Girls = Evil (Thus, girls are evil)
*Girls=Evil credit goes to Compynerd255*

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Re: [Contest] TI Siege
« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2012, 06:49:13 am »
Wow, this looks amazing so far. Incredible what you can do with just TI-Basic. Good Luck!
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Re: [Contest] TI Siege
« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2012, 07:04:25 am »
great, looks good indeed. and indeed, the map should me big enough for this game, if you see it in action now :)

i like the layout and the way you display info at the same time (in most games, going to the menu clears the screen and you have to switch back an forth, but now it's all on one screen)
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