Post by: Harrierfalcon on October 01, 2007, 03:09:00 pm
For those watching my sig, I'm currently working on the easy parts, i.e. coding the sprite editor, etc. The projected features thus:
- Plugins, which you manually install, which add something either to the sprite or the picture editor. For specific parameters in one of my subroutines, you can't have more than 9 plugins at a time. I might add something to that subprog that allows you to have more than 9, but that's a no-go ATM.
- Sprite editing, any combo of 8 or 16, with sprite code generation.
- Picture editing, including a HUGE variety of functions and tools that I won't include for the sake of bandwidth. Suffice to say, it will cover your picture-editing needs.
Sorry about the delay in typing the plugin name, I had a brain fart and forgot which key theta was. XD
Obviously, it's not that far yet, but it's getting there. Oh yeah, and whenever you see a black screen with white text like when it's loading, any text that you think would cause a domain error doesn't. :)
Look!
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 01, 2007, 03:55:00 pm
As for the text not causing errors, do u actualy use xLIB scrolling functions?
Post by: Harrierfalcon on October 01, 2007, 04:09:00 pm
- (Celtic) Yes.
- (xLIB) Yes.
- (Scrolling...) Tada! YES!
The Game is pretty much dead ATM...Q_Q
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 01, 2007, 04:18:00 pm
Metroid I and II use scrolling like this for the credits, altough Zeromus/CDI made it scroll one pixel at a time (he did the credit section)
Post by: Harrierfalcon on October 02, 2007, 01:19:00 am
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 02, 2007, 04:17:00 am
But I guess that and the insane amount of features compared to both Pure BASIC Metroids can justify Metroid II speed
Please don't post this map outside Omnimaga btw, it is exclusive to Omnimaga visitors and it doesn't contains any map from version 2.0
EDIT: The pic is 1/4 scaled because the 3352x2448 one didn't really had its place in a forum post
Post by: Harrierfalcon on October 02, 2007, 10:27:00 am
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 02, 2007, 10:48:00 am
and keep up the good work on Artistic.
Post by: Harrierfalcon on October 02, 2007, 11:23:00 am
Oh, and btw, yiour configuration and plugins are saved in a hidden and unused part of your calc :)
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Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 02, 2007, 11:28:00 am
I thought running hidden programs was impossible, unless celtic can detect them?Holy f***ing s***, if celtic can detect hidden programs I'm so gonna put this in Metroid II: Evolution so there is only one sub routine that shows up when you go in the PRGM menu (after running/exiting the game at least once)!
Post by: Harrierfalcon on October 02, 2007, 12:05:00 pm
, but AFAIK, only if you created the programs with a symbol rather than an alphanumberic character as the first letter. (You have to use Celtic for that :().
Post by: Liazon on October 02, 2007, 12:07:00 pm
that's a big map. and it'd be pretty insane if artistic could handle it.
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 02, 2007, 12:09:00 pm
Basically what I mean is would it be possible for example, to make the metroid launching program hide all Metroid sub routines when exiting, then when you rerun the program it immediately reveal them again? Just so that people who don't like having massive amount of sub routines show up in PRGM menu when they're not playing only have the Metroid launching program visible.
Post by: Harrierfalcon on October 02, 2007, 12:18:00 pm
.Typically I hide programs the reliable way--not with MOS, but manually with DCS. A program whose name starts with a space or anything with a lower value (I use '.') is automatically hidden and irretrievable by most shells. This not only renders it hidden from the program menu, but also by the typical user. There are 2 ways to access it from here: 1. With Celtic2 or prgmPROG2STR or 2. With DoorsCS.
To prevent the latter, I added "Ans" as the first line of the programs, and used Celtic2 to archive them. This makes it totally hidden to all but the most savvy users.
To reference the programs with Celtic2, PROG2STR, or STR2PROG, use the same name you created it with. It will access it.
For example, write and execute this code (with Celtic2 in RAM, of course):c1-->
| CODE |
| ec1:4→Θ :".XXXTEMP→Str0 :Asm(prgmCELTIC2c2 |
ec2This will create the program ".XXXTEMP". To access it, use any of the above-mentioned methods.
Normally, this would not only take a chunk of RAM, but it would also be lost in a RAM clear. So I archive it, solving both issues.
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As for hiding ALL those subroutines...it would be highly inefficient. It would take a long time with Celtic2. If you really want to, I suggest getting your hands on PyroEdit 4.0 and stealing prgmPRGM2STR and prgmSTR2PRGM.
When you run prgmPRGM2STR, the name of the program in Ans as a string is taken as input (It's the same name you'd use with Celtic2), and it converts that entire program to a string, complete with newline tokens. Those look like spaces. But be careful--recalling them anywhere but in the program editor causes minor but potentially huge issues.
When you have that string, you can have fun with it. It's a string!
But with prgmSTR2PRGM, you can convert that string back to a program, FAST. When you run it, it takes the name of a program in Str7, the program string in Ans, and overwrites any preexisting program whose name is the same as Str7 with the program string you inputted. It doesn't really care if it's archived or not, it works either way :).
Normally, this would not only take a chunk of RAM, but it would also be lost in a RAM clear. So I archive it, solving both issues.
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As for hiding ALL those subroutines...it would be highly inefficient. It would take a long time with Celtic2. If you really want to, I suggest getting your hands on PyroEdit 4.0 and stealing prgmPRGM2STR and prgmSTR2PRGM.
When you run prgmPRGM2STR, the name of the program in Ans as a string is taken as input (It's the same name you'd use with Celtic2), and it converts that entire program to a string, complete with newline tokens. Those look like spaces. But be careful--recalling them anywhere but in the program editor causes minor but potentially huge issues.
When you have that string, you can have fun with it. It's a string!
But with prgmSTR2PRGM, you can convert that string back to a program, FAST. When you run it, it takes the name of a program in Str7, the program string in Ans, and overwrites any preexisting program whose name is the same as Str7 with the program string you inputted. It doesn't really care if it's archived or not, it works either way :)
. Post by: nitacku on October 02, 2007, 12:22:00 pm
I'm going to try this out.
Btw, how did you figure out that programs that didn't start with a letter were hidden?
Post by: Harrierfalcon on October 02, 2007, 12:25:00 pm
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 02, 2007, 12:25:00 pm
Post by: nitacku on October 02, 2007, 12:36:00 pm
I might store some programs into one program this way, in order to save some memory.
Post by: Harrierfalcon on October 02, 2007, 12:46:00 pm
Post by: Halifax on October 02, 2007, 01:39:00 pm
lolj/k
This is looking very nice though Harrierfalcon.
Post by: nitacku on October 02, 2007, 01:51:00 pm
| QUOTE |
| Not really, because when you recall the program string, the newlines are actually recalled as newlines, not as spaces. |
Darn. I was starting to think of some interesting applications too.
It's kinda cool that we're creating similar graphic programs. I find that it makes me want to program even more (like I don't program enough :P
). After we're both done with the programs, do you want to pick a new a project that we can both try programming? If you don't mind, I would really enjoy doing this. It's not a "who can make the better", I just really like seeing how other programmers tackle the same problems. It's a very good learning experience and it's more fun than programming alone. :)Post by: Harrierfalcon on October 02, 2007, 02:21:00 pm
!j/k. It'd be fun though, but I seriously have to work on Metroid Pi2, or I'll make a lot of disappointed people...:(
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 02, 2007, 03:06:00 pm
Post by: Harrierfalcon on October 02, 2007, 03:30:00 pm
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Post by: AaroneusTheGreat on October 02, 2007, 03:35:00 pm
| QUOTE (Harrierfalcon @ 2 Oct, 2007, 20:21) |
| or I'll make a lot of disappointed people...:( |
You can make people!? o.o
Well I guess we all can, but I was thinking of like making them by hand... Okay this joke went nowhere. :knight:
Post by: Harrierfalcon on October 02, 2007, 04:14:00 pm
:)
Progress is being made slowly due to large homework loads, but I have a 4-day weekend ahead of me, so I'll have time to work on my many projects :D
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Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 02, 2007, 04:48:00 pm
lolI can't wait to see screenies of MPII and new screenies of A2 features!
Post by: Liazon on October 03, 2007, 10:44:00 am
@Harrierfalcon: well as long as you meet your goals for this graphics editor. I mean, in the end the person that it should help the most is you :)
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 27, 2007, 01:24:00 pm
Post by: Harrierfalcon on October 27, 2007, 02:09:00 pm
But regardless, I'm working on the sprite editor as of now. The menu subroutine is faster (thanks to stolen TI|BD code), and I'm floating between making sprite to hex built-in or a plug-in.
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on October 27, 2007, 02:23:00 pm
by hex built do u mean it will be for asm programs as well or just compressed like tifreak8x sprites in Pok
Post by: Harrierfalcon on October 27, 2007, 03:07:00 pm
Although, I guess you could use them compressed like that.
And by TI|BD, yes, I do mean TI Basic Developer.
Post by: nitacku on October 27, 2007, 09:05:00 pm
However, unless you are trying to save memory, it doesn't hold as much value to a Basic programmer do to the need to convert the hex back into binary.
I suppose you could have the 16 possible hex combinations hard coded into a program that way all that has to be done is display the sprite line by line.
For example, if you had D3 (1101) as a hex code, you could have a sort of lookup table to tell the program what pixels to turn on.
If Ans="D"
Then
pixelOn(X,Y
pixelOn(X+1,Y
pixelOn(X+3,Y
End
This would be the fastest way, but obviously the most memory consuming as well.
Post by: Harrierfalcon on October 28, 2007, 04:25:00 am
Post by: Halifax on November 03, 2007, 07:56:00 pm
Post by: Harrierfalcon on November 04, 2007, 05:05:00 am
Post by: nitacku on November 04, 2007, 07:53:00 am
I use xLIB to copy the plugin to a temporary program so it can be run.
Do you use Celtic to run the plugin?
Post by: arglactable on December 09, 2007, 12:03:00 pm
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Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 09, 2007, 12:30:00 pm
Post by: arglactable on December 09, 2007, 12:33:00 pm
BUGGER! Though, oncerning MPII, I'm not sure I really care that much. If its anything like the original it will just crash. :(
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 09, 2007, 12:35:00 pm
Post by: Harrierfalcon on December 09, 2007, 02:26:00 pm
c1-->| CODE |
| ec1:999→dim(L1 :Ans→dim(L2 :While 1 :Disp "HAHAHAHAHAHA! :SortA(L1,L2 :SortD(L2,L1 :Endc2 |
ec2
Yeah, I don't know if this will ever get worked on again, Metroid Pi2 is getting rather fun to code ATM.
@arglactable: What do you mean by "crashed"? A RAM Clear, or an error?
Yeah, I don't know if this will ever get worked on again, Metroid Pi2 is getting rather fun to code ATM.
@arglactable: What do you mean by "crashed"? A RAM Clear, or an error?
Post by: arglactable on December 09, 2007, 02:37:00 pm
Post by: Harrierfalcon on December 09, 2007, 03:52:00 pm
Hm...that is really weird...I don't know. It might be because you don't have the most recent version (although I don't know which site has which). Check UTI's archive for it, chances are that's the most recent version.
Post by: arglactable on December 09, 2007, 04:07:00 pm
EDIT: I thought that I might not have enough RAM after reading the README; it said I needed 5k to run it. I tried again (with over 6k) and still got the same error.
Post by: Harrierfalcon on December 09, 2007, 05:04:00 pm
Post by: TIfanx1999 on December 10, 2007, 06:19:00 am
Post by: arglactable on December 10, 2007, 08:42:00 am
). I had this issue on my previous calculator (before it really started acting up). at most I can make it to the shock beam before it quits.Post by: arglactable on December 19, 2007, 02:10:00 pm
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 19, 2007, 04:50:00 pm
Post by: Harrierfalcon on December 19, 2007, 05:08:00 pm
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 19, 2007, 06:35:00 pm
Post by: Harrierfalcon on December 20, 2007, 02:21:00 am
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 20, 2007, 03:46:00 am
Post by: TIfanx1999 on December 20, 2007, 11:03:00 am
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Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 20, 2007, 05:02:00 pm
Post by: arglactable on December 21, 2007, 01:29:00 pm
I love grouptool since I group basically any prog that uses more than one file.
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 21, 2007, 01:45:00 pm
Post by: TIfanx1999 on December 21, 2007, 02:21:00 pm
Post by: arglactable on December 21, 2007, 04:41:00 pm
Please take note of the actual punctuation marks featured in this post. their kind is rarely seen anymore.