Author Topic: Axe Minesweeper (Read 49270 times)

DJ Omnimaga · « **Reply #180 on:** September 16, 2010, 08:14:02 pm »

Quote from: Michael_Lee on September 16, 2010, 08:04:04 pm

Umm...
The cursor jumping to the other side was something I was originally going to include, anyways, although I was unable to make it work in time.
Making the actual map loop continuously would be wickedly hard (and I'm unable to come up with any clever ways to do it at this moment).
With wraparound, I think you just have to make the mine placement and expanding loop to the other side once, which should be easy enough to do.

Aah ok I see. Well, good luck!

SirCmpwn · « **Reply #181 on:** September 16, 2010, 09:07:01 pm »

Ooo, I just got this, and it's nice!

Happybobjr · « **Reply #182 on:** September 16, 2010, 09:20:15 pm »

Quote from: Michael_Lee on September 16, 2010, 07:56:36 pm

Quote from: Deep Thought on September 16, 2010, 07:52:54 pm
Quote from: Michael_Lee on September 15, 2010, 06:43:38 pm
I didn't have time to include wraparound, or make any kind of elaborate high scores list, but now you can contort your minefield size so long as the total is equal or under to about 355.

No wraparound? That's not a problem. Not many PC minesweeper games have wraparound, anyway

Yes, but wraparound is EPIC. (I've never seen it or been able to enable it, but I was looking forward to trying it myself...)

so i thought of something original? thats awesome!

shmibs · « **Reply #183 on:** September 16, 2010, 10:08:39 pm »

i now have a bit of time to explain myself as my brother is done using the machine. (you most likely know the vast majority of what is going to follow already, but im going to cover everything anyways just in case)
traditionally, map data for tilemappers is stored in one long continuous string of data. to access a set point in this data one would simply multiply the y position by the total width of the map and then add the height. thus, drawing a map from the data would look like these(you draw to a 10*10 square and store your data in L1, right?):
fixed map size of 10*10:

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for(L,0,9
for(M,0,9
PtOn(6*L,6*M,10*M+L+L1
End:End
Dispgraph

which can also be written as

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for(L,0,99
PtOn(L^10*6,L/10*6,L1+L
End
Dispgraph

scrolling for variable sizes larger than 10*10(x and y positions are listed as A and B respectively. these could technically be stored in a single variable with accessing via ^ and / as well, but that just makes things too confusing):

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0->A->BRepeat D=15
Repeat D
getkey->D
End
A+((D=3)*(A<[total map width minus 10]))-((D=2)*(A>0))->A
B+((D=1)*(B<[total map height minus 10]))-((D=4)*(B>0))->B
for(L,0,99
PtOn(L^10*6,L/10*6,[total map width]*B+A+L1+L
End
Dispgraph
End

Scrolling with wraparound(this is very similar to the option above, but instead of just stopping at it's max value, the x and y's will revert back to zero. to make what im doing a bit cleaner and easier to read ive split some of it into if statements, but these can be incorporated easily into the long +- strings {saving quite a bit of space} as well if you want. also to make things easier to read, the L^ and L/ are L and M again):

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0->A->BRepeat D=15
Repeat D
getkey->D
End
A+((D=3)*(A<[total map width]))-((D=2)*(A>0))->A
B+((D=1)*(B<[total map height]))-((D=4)*(B>0))->B
if A=[total map width] and (D=3)
0->AEnd
if A=0 and (D=2)
[total map width]->AEnd
if B=[total map height] and (D=1)
0->BEnd
if B=0 and (D=4)
[total map height]->BEnd
for(L,0,9
for(M,0,9
PtOn(L^10*6,L/10*6,B+M^[total map height]*[total map width]+(A+L^[total map width])+L1
End:End
Dispgraph
End

i dont know any specifics about the code you're using for the sweeping routine, but it could potentially do the same thing. im going to assume that you have to check all the spots around a given point to see which direction the sweeping should advance in. in that case, check if the point you are checking is less than 0(in which case you would add the total map dimension you are advancing in) and check if it is greater than the max map dimension in the direction you are checking in(in which case you simply subtract that total to find the tile you want)

this code was all written on the spot and was not bug tested, so there may be an off by 1 in here somewhere or i may have mixed up getkey(1) and getkey(4) again. however, the general concepts should work. good luck on making this happen!

Michael_Lee · « **Reply #184 on:** September 17, 2010, 08:12:44 pm »

Quote from: shmibs on September 16, 2010, 10:08:39 pm

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for(L,0,99 PtOn(L^10*6,L/10*6,L1+L End Dispgraph

I like this, but am slightly confused by the rest.

I don't think this:

Quote from: shmibs on September 16, 2010, 10:08:39 pm

scrolling for variable sizes larger than 10*10(x and y positions are listed as A and B respectively. these could technically be stored in a single variable with accessing via ^ and / as well, but that just makes things too confusing):
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0->A->BRepeat D=15 Repeat D getkey->D End A+((D=3)*(A<[total map width minus 10]))-((D=2)*(A>0))->A B+((D=1)*(B<[total map height minus 10]))-((D=4)*(B>0))->B for(L,0,99 PtOn(L^10*6,L/10*6,[total map width]*B+A+L1+L End Dispgraph End

would work. Assume that there's a 4x4 map for simplicity, and I want it to look like this: (* is a mine, and can be replaced by an arbitary number over 8 )
01*2 012* 0011 0000
If I stored that map data to L1, it would look like this:
01*2 012* 0011 0000 (with spaces for readability)
Using your code, if I just wanted to display the graph, without adding scrolling, I would do this.

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For(L,0,8
PtOn(L^4*6,L/4*6,4*B+A+L1+L
End
(assuming for a moment that A=B=0)

Which would display only the first 9 numbers in L1 and look like this:
01* 201 2*0 Parts left out: 00110000
instead of ideally, this:
01* 2 012 * 001 10000 Right column = parts of the list left out.

At this moment, I'm not sure if your code will accommodate displaying correctly. I think you've made the same kind of error for looping too.
Or did I completely misunderstand your code or did something stupid on my part? (apologies if I did, I'm a bit tired)

shmibs · « **Reply #185 on:** September 18, 2010, 12:34:37 am »

the second one should work, as i've made it work before:

however, it is also quite possible that i mistyped something as i am also quite tired
ima try mocking up a couple of demos for you

DJ Omnimaga · « **Reply #186 on:** September 18, 2010, 01:04:11 am »

Was that a new RPG you were working on shmibs?

whitevalkery · « **Reply #187 on:** September 18, 2010, 01:45:12 am »

Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on September 18, 2010, 01:04:11 am

Was that a new RPG you were working on shmibs?

it looks kinda like Pokemon

is it going to be something like a pokemon clone or something on those lines?
harvest moon perhaps?

i donno... i am just thinking up all the games that look like that

though it looks like pokemon the most

DJ Omnimaga · « **Reply #188 on:** September 18, 2010, 01:57:20 am »

Yeah indeed, although the map seemed different. It looks nice though. I wonder if he'll work on a RPG. I wish I had motivation to port ROL3 to Axe...

Michael_Lee · « **Reply #189 on:** September 18, 2010, 10:21:15 am »

@ Shimbs: Huh - so I was wrong

Your sprite stays in the center of the screen though - is that built in, or can that be changed? My screen only moves if the pointer approaches the edges.

@ Everybody:
Right now, I'm not entirely sure what people mean by wraparound, looping, etc., so:
Wraparound - by this, I mean that if a mine is located on an edge, it increments the numbers on the opposite side. Also, if you click a blank bubble that goes off screen, then it continues on the other side.
This should be easy-ish to implement.

Map looping - by this, I mean that if the entire minefield map would continue to draw itself to the side and corners over and over, giving the illusion that the minefield has no boundary. DJ suggested this idea, but while it would be cool, it would also be incredibly disorienting for the player and difficult for me to code.

Pointer-moving-to-the-other-side - Currently without a snappy name, this feature would let your pointer move to the other side if you hit a boundary and keep going. This feature existed in some of my earlier screenshots, but was removed after the large minefield sizes along with time constraints made it more difficult.

DJ Omnimaga · « **Reply #190 on:** September 18, 2010, 12:36:00 pm »

I guess wraparound might be best then, since looping looks like it might be too hard.

whitevalkery · « **Reply #191 on:** September 18, 2010, 01:32:58 pm »

i just sent you a pm

i hope that has the correct information though

not really sure what most people mean by wrap around either...
though i would thinking that something like map looping is quite unnecessary...

the first one... it seems quite interesting... though once again... not necessary lol

SirCmpwn · « **Reply #192 on:** September 18, 2010, 01:35:48 pm »

Quote from: Michael_Lee on September 18, 2010, 10:21:15 am

Pointer-moving-to-the-other-side - Currently without a snappy name, this feature would let your pointer move to the other side if you hit a boundary and keep going. This feature existed in some of my earlier screenshots, but was removed after the large minefield sizes along with time constraints made it more difficult.

As for a name, how about cursor snapping?

whitevalkery · « **Reply #193 on:** September 18, 2010, 01:40:03 pm »

Quote from: SirCmpwn on September 18, 2010, 01:35:48 pm

Quote from: Michael_Lee on September 18, 2010, 10:21:15 am
Pointer-moving-to-the-other-side - Currently without a snappy name, this feature would let your pointer move to the other side if you hit a boundary and keep going. This feature existed in some of my earlier screenshots, but was removed after the large minefield sizes along with time constraints made it more difficult.
As for a name, how about cursor snapping?

i say we keep that part as is...
since everything works now... so why fix it?

EDIT: oops... i accidentally posted in his quote

meishe91 · « **Reply #194 on:** September 18, 2010, 04:09:04 pm »

Well I think I'm just gonna put my two cents in.

I feel like the idea of wrap around is a little taboo in Minesweeper. I just think it will mess with people who go in expecting to play a normal Minesweeper game but then when a number on the edge says four but they can only find two touching ones, it might mess with them and think the game is flawed. Even if you put it in a Readme.txt file there is no guarantee people will read it. Also the wrap around expansion is a little odd too because that would be completely new and odd to some people. Like I know for a fact those would mess with me unless I really focused and remembered those things.

As for what you were calling map looping. I like this idea, though not in the context you were saying. I think you should be able to scroll out to the end of the map and then when you go one more over it wraps back to the first row/column.

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That's what I mean. It'll be odd if you do:

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I could be wrong, but that's what it sounded like you were saying.

What ever you do though I think it'll be great. This has been an amazing project so far

Keep up the good work and can't wait to see progress

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