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Re: Breakout clone
« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2010, 09:36:38 pm »
Quote from: Builderboy on November 07, 2010, 09:30:45 pm
But if each block give a certain amount of points, wont the score for every level (READ: After you have hit every single block!) be the same?
three words: multipliers.
Multi-ball multiplier
Power-up multiplier
Combo multiplier?

Ok so summary:
  Random levels
  Score counter (no hud for now)
  Power-ups
  and multipliers.
  I'll have it done by this time tomorrow (unless I have any MAJOR problems, you know, probably) :P

I'll also probably decrease the amount the paddle increases in size per ball on screen.
The power-ups and conditions for the multipliers will be the only hard parts :P
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Re: Breakout clone
« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2010, 10:48:09 pm »
That looks wonderful.  Great job lookitsacompetentprogrammer! ;D
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Re: Breakout clone
« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2010, 10:54:35 pm »
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lookitsacompetentprogrammer! ;D
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Re: Breakout clone
« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2010, 11:20:52 pm »
Looking really cool. Can't wait to see more on this.
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Re: Breakout clone
« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2010, 11:30:45 pm »
I won't keep you waiting ;)

done already:
  paddle length reworked, no longer dependant on # of balls
  power-up framework: done.
  paddle length power-ups fully functional :D

I said it'd be done by tomorrow, didn't I? Time to catch some zzz's, though :P

EDIT: actually, i haven't limited the max paddle length yet... ;)
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Re: Breakout clone
« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2010, 11:46:17 pm »
I can't wait to try this with that many balls at once. Must be wacky fun ;D
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Re: Breakout clone
« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2010, 11:52:47 pm »
Idea for a level: A level completely made from bricks with balls inside. See how many balls you can fit in one level ;)

EDIT: Did you start working on this today? If so, wow, you work fast :o
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Re: Breakout clone
« Reply #22 on: November 08, 2010, 08:17:55 am »
Quote from: Builderboy on November 07, 2010, 09:30:45 pm
But if each block give a certain amount of points, wont the score for every level (READ: After you have hit every single block!) be the same?

It wouldn't have to be for a couple of reasons:

1. Not all levels would need to have the same number of blocks.
2. Different blocks can have different point values. IE some blocks take multiple hits to destroy and would be worth more points(other clones have done this).
3. Powerups. Power ups could affect point values also. Say for example he added a gun powerup that allowed you 3 free shots, (where if a bullet hits a block it destroys the block) he could make it so that blocks destroyed in this manner did not give points since they are essentially freebies.

Just some thoughts anyways. =)
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Re: Breakout clone
« Reply #23 on: November 08, 2010, 05:29:24 pm »
ok new in v.70:
  power-up block: looks just like a normal 1-hit block, but drops a pre-determined power up
  power-ups:
    paddle elongator
    paddle shrinker
    3x multiplier (lasts 300 frames)
    pass-through ball (lasts 100 frames)
  SCORES!!!
  combo multiplier (hit three blocks within 10 frames, 4 within 20, etc., for a 2x multiplier)
  Levels are once again random.
  A somewhat mediocre teacher key.

What do you think? should the power-ups be random? should I use different icons for each power-up?

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Re: Breakout clone
« Reply #24 on: November 08, 2010, 05:32:33 pm »
Quote from: Art_of_camelot on November 08, 2010, 08:17:55 am
Quote from: Builderboy on November 07, 2010, 09:30:45 pm
But if each block give a certain amount of points, wont the score for every level (READ: After you have hit every single block!) be the same?

It wouldn't have to be for a couple of reasons:

1. Not all levels would need to have the same number of blocks.
2. Different blocks can have different point values. IE some blocks take multiple hits to destroy and would be worth more points(other clones have done this).
3. Powerups. Power ups could affect point values also. Say for example he added a gun powerup that allowed you 3 free shots, (where if a bullet hits a block it destroys the block) he could make it so that blocks destroyed in this manner did not give points since they are essentially freebies.

Just some thoughts anyways. =)

Well what I think he was saying is that for any given level if a certain type of block has a certain point amount assigned to it then every time you beat that level you'll have exactly the same points. That's when the idea of multipliers and such came in from lookitsan00b. Builder was just saying there wouldn't be much of a point system if each time it was the same number each time you beat the same level.
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Re: Breakout clone
« Reply #25 on: November 08, 2010, 05:39:57 pm »
okay the point system works as follows:

every time you grab a power up, 10*M+S->S

Every time you hit a block, 10*M+S->S

M is 1 + combo_multiplier + 2*Multiplier_power_ups_recently

combo multiplier is either 0 or 1.  every time you hit a block, T+20->T, and every frame, T-(T=/=1)->T.
  The multiplier is active if T gets above 40 and has not since hit 0.

The power-ups just last 300 frames, and reset the timer every time you grab another, however, the multipliers do add together.
  Note: they share a timer with the pass-through-ball. This means that grabbing one will set your multiplier timer to 100.
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Re: Breakout clone
« Reply #26 on: November 08, 2010, 08:21:32 pm »
Nice job on this version. :)  I think it would be helpful to have multiple images for the falling power ups so you can know which is which. ;D
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Re: Breakout clone
« Reply #27 on: November 08, 2010, 08:32:23 pm »
Quote from: lookitsan00b on November 08, 2010, 05:29:24 pm
What do you think? should the power-ups be random? should I use different icons for each power-up?
Great job on this, and in my opinion, yes and yes. :D
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Re: Breakout clone
« Reply #28 on: November 08, 2010, 08:46:22 pm »
Powerups look great! Why did it seem to go blank somewhere in the third screenie, though?
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Re: Breakout clone
« Reply #29 on: November 08, 2010, 09:03:31 pm »
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Powerups look great! Why did it seem to go blank somewhere in the third screenie, though?
lol thats the teacher key. ALPHA, in case anybody was wondering. It clears the screen in emergency situations, for example, your math teacher walks by...

Quote from: Art_of_camelot on November 08, 2010, 08:32:23 pm
Quote from: lookitsan00b on November 08, 2010, 05:29:24 pm
What do you think? should the power-ups be random? should I use different icons for each power-up?
Great job on this, and in my opinion, yes and yes. :D
Quote from: ztrumpet on November 08, 2010, 08:21:32 pm
Nice job on this version. :)  I think it would be helpful to have multiple images for the falling power ups so you can know which is which. ;D

How is this? (I wonder as to the cause of the powerups falling through the paddle...)

« Last Edit: November 08, 2010, 09:03:47 pm by lookitsan00b »
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