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Hayleia · « **Reply #60 on:** October 14, 2011, 02:33:37 pm »

Quote from: Stefan Bauwens on October 14, 2011, 02:20:04 pm

Hayleia, what do you mean with graph function. This? :
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Pt-On((12*8)-A,(J*8)+R,GetCalc("appvGreyMap",{(J*15)+12+Y+GDB1}*8+Pic2)Also which kind of appvar? I'm not so used to the 83+. A GDB?

Appvars tutorial by FinaleTI
I learnt everything here, so it should explain better than me. Give him a lot of +1s.
By graph function I mean Y-Var (Y₀-Y₉)

? the problem with my method is that you need another program to create the appvar.
Or you give that prog with the game so we can create it, or you directly give the appvar with the game. But if you have the appvar creator in the game then you have the map in the game so my method is useless -.-°
? the advantage of my method is that if the map never changes, it "stays in archive" (well, it is copied to RAM but it doesn't increase the size of the game).

Spoiler For the interesting part of the tutorial:

Stefan Bauwens · « **Reply #61 on:** October 14, 2011, 02:48:30 pm »

Well, since my map will be so huge that it's bigger than 32k I'll have to have a file archived already that I'll add with the game.
But what kind of file?

Hayleia · « **Reply #62 on:** October 14, 2011, 02:59:41 pm »

Quote from: Stefan Bauwens on October 14, 2011, 02:48:30 pm

bigger than 32k

If it is bigger than 32k, you can't create it (it won't fit in your RAM). But you can split into 2 appvars

.

Quote from: Stefan Bauwens on October 14, 2011, 02:48:30 pm

But what kind of file?

An appvar is a .8xv file that contains only data.
The appvar creator should look like this (it is an example that I got from my Pokemon):

Spoiler For Spoiler:

But you'll not name your appvar PokeType -.-°
Then, at the beginning of the game you do
GetCalc("appvGreyMap",Y₀) (you can name your appvar otherly, and use Y₁ as well

)
Then you access your map with the pointer Y₀, so the first byte of your map is at {Y₀}

Stefan Bauwens · « **Reply #63 on:** October 15, 2011, 06:46:19 am »

Quote from: Hayleia on October 14, 2011, 02:59:41 pm

Quote from: Stefan Bauwens on October 14, 2011, 02:48:30 pm
bigger than 32k
If it is bigger than 32k, you can't create it (it won't fit in your RAM). But you can split into 2 appvars .

Quote from: Stefan Bauwens on October 14, 2011, 02:48:30 pm
But what kind of file?
An appvar is a .8xv file that contains only data.
The appvar creator should look like this (it is an example that I got from my Pokemon):

Spoiler For Spoiler:
.GETTYPE
[050000]→GDB1
[000000]
[060400]
[030A00]
[020A00]
[060000]
[0A0000]
[080200]
[070800]
[010A00]
[030807]
[020A00]
[090000]
[060500]
[040A00]
[060500]
[000000]
[070000]
[020600]
[080304]
.60 bytes of Data

.create the appvar
GetCalc("appvPokeType",60)->A

.fill it with the data
For(r1,0,59)
{GDB1+r1}→{A+r1}
End
But you'll not name your appvar PokeType -.-°
Then, at the beginning of the game you do
GetCalc("appvGreyMap",Y₀) (you can name your appvar otherly, and use Y₁ as well )
Then you access your map with the pointer Y₀, so the first byte of your map is at {Y₀}

How do you edit such a file? Trough the computer or do you let an axe program create it?

Hayleia · « **Reply #64 on:** October 15, 2011, 07:12:43 am »

Quote from: Stefan Bauwens on October 15, 2011, 06:46:19 am

How do you edit such a file? Trough the computer or do you let an axe program create it?

With an Axe prog. In the spoiler of my previous post, I gave you an example of how to create an appvar filled with data.

Stefan Bauwens · « **Reply #65 on:** October 15, 2011, 08:45:03 am »

Quote from: Hayleia on October 15, 2011, 07:12:43 am

Quote from: Stefan Bauwens on October 15, 2011, 06:46:19 am
How do you edit such a file? Trough the computer or do you let an axe program create it?
With an Axe prog. In the spoiler of my previous post, I gave you an example of how to create an appvar filled with data.

Yes, but when I run an axe prog it must be unarchived right? And my map is so big...
Maybe I should do it like this:
First send maphalf1 to your calc. This runs and creates the appvar and archives it. Then you delete maphalf1.
Then You sent maphalf2 to your calc and do the same.
Then I sent Grey itself to the calc?

Hayleia · « **Reply #66 on:** October 15, 2011, 09:14:30 am »

Quote from: Stefan Bauwens on October 15, 2011, 08:45:03 am

Yes, but when I run an axe prog it must be unarchived right? And my map is so big...
Maybe I should do it like this:
First send maphalf1 to your calc. This runs and creates the appvar and archives it. Then you delete maphalf1.
Then You sent maphalf2 to your calc and do the same.
Then I sent Grey itself to the calc?

Or you run maphalf1 on Wabbit, then delete it and run mapahlf2 then delete it, and extract the two appvars from Wabbit.
Then, when you release the game, you give us the game and the two appvars and say in the readme that we must archive it

Stefan Bauwens · « **Reply #67 on:** October 15, 2011, 10:27:18 am »

Aha! Thank you! I'll do it like that I think.

Stefan Bauwens · « **Reply #68 on:** October 18, 2011, 03:02:05 am »

Okey I scroll at 1 pixel left and right, but I think it goes too slow because drawing the whole screen EVERY frame is just slow.

* Stefan Bauwens wonders if everybody draws the whole srceen every frame?

DJ Omnimaga · « **Reply #69 on:** October 18, 2011, 03:50:02 am »

Usually if you got a tilemap, you just draw the needed row/column of tiles. I do not know how to do that, though. Redrawing the entire screen every frame is indeed slow. Just redrawing one col/row if you got complex physics might be tricky, though, although I doubt in Grey you need to fall down/move at speeds higher than 8 pixels per frame.

Wellen · « **Reply #70 on:** October 18, 2011, 06:17:38 am »

Oooh great ! That's the problem I have with Lost : my maps get bigger and bigger and the game also slower because I draw the entire map every frame...

I'm currently searching for a way to draw just the rows and columns I need (so 8*12), the most tricky part is to calculate the position of the top-left corner, compared with the pointer of the map...
For the row-position : simple :

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Y(incremented or decremented with getkeys 1 and 4) * (the number of columns of the entire map)->BFor the column-position : a little bit harder, I think something like

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(number of columns) - X(incremented or decremented with getkeys 2 and 3)->A
and finally the location compared with the pointer could be this

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{B+A+GDB0}
But I'm not sure at all, I haven't tried this on my calc yet, but you can

Yeong · « **Reply #71 on:** October 18, 2011, 06:20:45 am »

What do you mean by drawing the whole map? Do you mean by drawing entire tilemap data instead of only displaying 12x8 portion of the map?

Wellen · « **Reply #72 on:** October 18, 2011, 06:26:14 am »

Quote from: yeongJIN_COOL on October 18, 2011, 06:20:45 am

What do you mean by drawing the whole map? Do you mean by drawing entire tilemap data instead of only displaying 12x8 portion of the map?

I think so, and that's what I was doing, too ^^

Stefan Bauwens · « **Reply #73 on:** October 18, 2011, 06:34:40 am »

Quote from: yeongJIN_COOL on October 18, 2011, 06:20:45 am

What do you mean by drawing the whole map? Do you mean by drawing entire tilemap data instead of only displaying 12x8 portion of the map?

I mean drawing the part of the map visible on the screen(something like 13*

. But I'll see if I can use 'horizontal' and 'vertical'.

LincolnB · « **Reply #74 on:** October 19, 2011, 09:56:39 am »

I just display the 13*9 portion of the screen (not 12*8 for various reasons relating to smooth scrolling) every frame, and it works fine. There are different things you can do to optimize for aggressive speed at the expense of size, found here: http://ourl.ca/8520

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