Hnefatafl: The Viking Board Game (download on page 7)

[meishe91]

Hmmm, ok. Thanks.

[DJ Omnimaga]

I was kidding

Because for some reasons the first time I saw this topic title I misread it as hentai-fatal .

[Zera]

Something like neh-puh-topple

I suppose you can substitute the P sounds for V sounds, as well. P, V and F are all rather ambiguously sounded in some languages.

[meishe91]

Haha well it made sense to me so I didn't question it

But thanks Zera for a correct pronunciation

[jsj795]

I'm uploading what I have so far... I still didn't implement the shieldwall, and A.I., and the surrounding capture (that looks like GO capture).

What I did accomplish from {AP}'s game are:

• different board design
• choice of who goes first
• # of rounds to play (1~5)
• Win condition (either highest wins or highest captures)
• 'King needs to make 2 moves for escape' option
• Saving/loading
• Gameplay log (although it only stores last 2 moves)

After I'm done with the three things that needs to be done, the game should be complete...

btw, there may be some bugs, especially dealing with who wins, etc. I tried to fix all the bugs that I found, but there might still be some that I did not see. So if you find one, please tell me. what the settings were during the time of finding bug would really help too.

And, I'm too lazy to make an animated screenshot right now If anyone wants to do it, go ahead. ^^

[DJ Omnimaga]

great update! Question, though: by "choice of who goes first" you mean it's random, right? Not letting the person choose?

[jsj795]

no, it's choosing whether the attacker or defender goes first. It's the first setting in configuration page

[Zera]

A few concerns:

 - The burgs and king's throne should look alike. The tiles have the same properties. It's more of a technicality, though. It doesn't hurt to have the king's throne use a different design, but it is kind of awkward to someone who plays the game regularly.

 - The number of rounds and winning conditions are kind of odd. Normally, the winner of the game is determined through two rounds of play. At the second round, each player switches sides. Whoever won both rounds wins the game. If it's tied, then whoever had the most captures wins the game. These are not separate conditions.

 - Who goes first should not be randomly determined, or adjustable. Whoever plays the attacking side makes the first move. When players switch sides in the next round, this means both of them get to go first at least once during the entire game.

It probably doesn't hurt the gameplay balance to have these rules adjusted any which way, though.

EDIT: By the way - you may want to edit the title screen to include your name in the initial credits, too.

[jsj795]

Oh okay^^ Will change those.

[jsj795]

Today, I spent the entire morning researching on the AI for the board games. I found some interesting articles, and it seems like Minimax Algorithm is good for these kind of games. I don't know if it will be fast/efficient enough with BASIC, and I still haven't read all of it yet. I hope it works and if it does, it will definitely lead to a very good AI, not too hard, not too easy.

[DJ Omnimaga]

Nice I hope it runs fast enough for your needs.

[jsj795]

Approximately how long should the AI think?
I want it to be playable in regular TI83+, so in that speed, would like, 1 minute enough? or is it too long?

[Zera]

If the A.I. is plotting a move for over a minute, that's definitely too long. The player is going to think the game has become unresponsive. I'm thinking no more than 6 seconds or so - if that's feasible.

[jsj795]

hmmm... yeah a minute would be too long -_-;;
Well, I haven't really coded any AI part yet, except black's first move, and I don't exactly know how fast it's going to be. Hopefully, less than 10 seconds. If it goes over, then I guess I have to make the AI less intelligent, or make a progress bar for AI's thinking to show that the game is not unresponsive.

[DJ Omnimaga]

10 seconds may be ok. If there are difficulty settings, have the AI think for less time on lower difficulty settings