I just didn't like the LTTP dungeons, or the DS series dungeons. TP's dungeons were alright, but Skyward Sword's were amazing. Best in the series in my opinion. The thing that makes them better is the sense of progression, and clever manipulation of the dungeon's gimmicks. Usually there is a central mechanic and purpose to the 3d dungeons that is unmatched in the 2d ones, which are usually just sprawled and unorganized puzzle mazes. Also, they didn't make getting new items as satisfying, because they were not as important to manipulating the dungeon. In the later games, getting the new item meant new possibilities and new puzzles. It is an overall more satisfying experience, rather than actually recreating the mood of a real dungeon.

Well that's almost a given. The dungeons from the 2D games are just that: two-dimensional. There's not much you can do with two dimensions. The 3D dungeons add the element of height, allowing for more complex and rewarding dungeons, mazes, puzzles, etc.

Well that's almost a given. The dungeons from the 2D games are just that: two-dimensional. There's not much you can do with two dimensions. The 3D dungeons add the element of height, allowing for more complex and rewarding dungeons, mazes, puzzles, etc.

Actually, what was changed in the style of the 3d dungeons, in my opinion, could be achieved with 2 dimensions. Only a few of the newer puzzles really need the element of height, or depth. It is more in the layout and flow that it changed more than the puzzles themselves.

Boot2490 could you provide some ideas to Blakpilar (and preferably code since they might be very complex)?

Ummm, can I be filled in on what is going on? I was in Canada and apparently missed progress of some sorts on blak's and my project

I don't need code, just an idea or two. 3D dungeons and dungeons in the non-handheld games still allow for more things to be placed, boot, because they don't have such a small memory restriction. Personally I thought the dungeons in Minish Cap were pretty fun, so I might make the dungeons in our game in that kind of style. (Though, we'd have to implement movable tiles.)

EDIT: Yeah, saint, we're just talking about dungeon design.

Ontario, for the weekend

Hiya guys! I've got some good news, and some bad news.

The bad news is saint has left our two-man dev team because he's got some other projects that he's been working on and doesn't quite have the time to work on this. The good news, though, is that I now have the source and since I have literally been doing nothing in some classes the last couple of weeks, I can start working on this!

However, summer is approaching! And, if everything goes the way I would love it all to go for me in the very near future, I may not have much time to work on this here Zelda game so I have a proposal! I would like to be able to work with one person (possibly maybe two) on this because I don't exactly have the best creativity sometimes, and I have been known to be stuck on a single bug for quite some time. If you are semi-good or better at Axe, contact me through a PM on here or through email (my address is on my profile), and I'll let you know if you're "hired" The only thing I ask is you let me get caught up on all the changes in the source and whatnot so I know what's going on code-wise.

So uhh, yeah! I'm sad to see saintrunner go, but I (and hopefully you all) understand. Just know that this project is back, regardless of whether or not I get a partner (or two)