Author Topic: Monopoly v3.0 BETA (Read 37868 times)

jsj795 · « **Reply #15 on:** November 30, 2009, 10:01:47 am »

I am guessing this does not support AI... or does it?

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jmaster797 · « **Reply #16 on:** November 30, 2009, 04:46:53 pm »

At the moment, no it doesn't. This update of the game will feature things like a trading system, a better managing system, and an overall better experience (even including tokens). I do plan to include an AI in a future update, and create the first Monopoly featuring an AI. When I do create a Monopoly with an AI, I'll be sure to let you know. My Texas Hold'em game will feature AI though.

DJ Omnimaga: I'll be sure to include the rules of Monopoly with the final version.

DJ Omnimaga · « **Reply #17 on:** December 01, 2009, 12:06:40 am »

Would Monopoly AI be very hard to create? Some AI stuff is kinda hard in BASIC due to speed and size

ztrumpet · « **Reply #18 on:** December 01, 2009, 07:42:01 am »

Probably not very hard, because you only have to decide if the AI will buy a property or not.

jmaster797 · « **Reply #19 on:** December 01, 2009, 08:57:01 am »

Well yes it's true, the easy part is making an AI that will decide to buy a property or not. What about when they are about to go bankrupt and they have to mortgage properties? Or perhaps they have lots of money and they want to buy houses or hotels. They may even need one property that you have and will want to trade with you. These are all things I would want an AI to do so that it actually seems like a person is playing (kinda) which will make the game more challenging.

jsj795 · « **Reply #20 on:** December 01, 2009, 01:05:01 pm »

Wow that would be a pretty decent AI. If you have chance tho, you should make different difficulty levels for the AI, the easiest just buying and selling property, medium putting houses and hotels, insane even trading and purposely concentrating on one section of the board to bomb you. But it's just a thought, i know how hard it is to make smart AI

ztrumpet · « **Reply #21 on:** December 01, 2009, 03:29:24 pm »

That sounds really nice! I like your plans to include trading.

jmaster797 · « **Reply #22 on:** December 02, 2009, 04:58:13 pm »

I like your idea jsj795. I definitely think I will include AI difficulty levels in the next version. That will be the only real update if all goes well with this version. I really want trading to work this time. Last time I tried it, I failed miserably. Hopefully a year and a half has changed that. Taking jsj795's idea, here is what I came up with for AI difficulty levels when the time comes:

Easy (How do I Play?): Buying some properties here and there. Passes most of the time during auctioning. Attempts trading when close to a monopoly. Puts a couple houses every once and a while (gotta be a little challenging).

Medium (I'll be a Challenge): Buying a lot of properties. Attempts a few decent bids. More aggressive trading when close to a monopoly. Puts on more houses, and even some hotels.

Hard (Prepare to Lose): Buys all properties, without going broke. Aggresive bidder. Will trade with a better deal for themselves, or if its convenient for them. Places as many hotels as possible.

DJ Omnimaga · « **Reply #23 on:** December 02, 2009, 05:05:17 pm »

I like that idea, it's kinda like in Starcraft computer difficulty modes (altough on the PC you cannot change the difficulty since it's randomly chosen). IN easy mode, the computer will just build the most basic units and buildings. In normal mode, they'll build a bit more stuff like siege tanks, wraiths, mutasliks, queens, scouts and dragoons. In hard mode they'll build most units and I believe there's a 4th mode too, which is described as "this mode will teach you the art of playing Starcraft".

This is kinda why when we play games against computers, sometimes computers suck so bad, even if not playing on hacked maps (FPM/ZC/MJDX/SCD).

jmaster797 · « **Reply #24 on:** December 02, 2009, 05:10:40 pm »

Cool. Funny thing is I never played Starcraft before... I did play a version of Monopoly on my ipod, so that's kinda where I got the idea. I'll be sure to release a BETA of v4.0 with the AI here so people can definitely test it out. That way, I will know what needs to be fixed before I release it to the rest of the TI community. Who knows, Monopoly with an amazing AI might become POTY 2010 (just a thought) since it hasn't been done before.

DJ Omnimaga · « **Reply #25 on:** December 02, 2009, 05:17:37 pm »

It could maybe happen. I am not sure, though, but in 1999 I believe a Monopoly game came out on ticalc.org and it was apparently nice. Maybe it had AI, idk. However, Parker Brothers sent a cease and desist letter to ticalc.org to get Monopoly taken down for copyrights reasons. I believe this company changed their copyright policies later, though, because now there are several Monopoly clones on ticalc and someone was working on an ASM one a few years ago (never got finished).

I believe your game might have a chance if it has amazing AI. BASIC games rarely get featured on ticalc.org because the vast majority of them were done at least 100 times before and are... well... basic. Because of this staff rarely look through the BASIC section of their archives to check for good stuff.

jmaster797 · « **Reply #26 on:** December 02, 2009, 05:27:10 pm »

If memory serves correct, you had at least 4 programs featured on the News page on ticalc.org. I mean your RPGs are better than most ASM ones I've played, in graphics and playability (most ASM RPGs are either full of bugs, incomplete, dead projects, or build using ARPG which I think fail). RoL 3, Reuben's Quest: Ev Awakening and Lost Mirror, and xLib xLib Revolution.

It's possible for Monopoly to have a chance, especially if it's advertised. All I gotta do is make people aware that a working Monopoly with an AI exists.

ztrumpet · « **Reply #27 on:** December 02, 2009, 07:13:13 pm »

I like your difficulties.
Do you have the option for people to keep building at a place after they get a hotel on it? I sometimes play with that rule. It can get bad when you land on a place with something like 2 hotels and a house.

DJ Omnimaga · « **Reply #28 on:** December 03, 2009, 12:15:27 am »

I swear I posted something there, I guess I forgot to hit the "Post" button

but yeah in summary I believe you have a big chance if you e-mail ticalc.org. Now everything involving file features (or close) seems to be working through e-mail.

jmaster797 · « **Reply #29 on:** December 03, 2009, 03:51:11 am »

I'm gonna wait and see how everything turns out. By the way ztrumpet, you just gave me an idea... it might be better for a future version though (I have delayed this version since the 3rd week after v2.0 was released). House Rules. You can choose the classic way to play Monopoly, or modify the rules a bit. Some rules you can add in are unlimited houses and hotels (normally there are 32 houses and 12 hotels buyable by players), free parking lottery (all money paid during jailtime, community chest and chance cards, or taxes go into a pot that is given to the person who lands on the free parking space), more building freedom (ztrumpet's idea where you can add on more hotels and houses), turning the Property Auctions on or off, etc. Now if I could get this to work, that would be sweet. Again this is just an idea...

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