I want to argue with you, becasue deep in my heart I know I'm right. But my brain can't think of a good reason

I'll "lol fail" you this weekend maybe

eh yeah collision detection would be a tad slower, but it'll be just as fast as I have it now (I'm using strings already). I'll give it a shot and if it's too slow, I'll switch to matrix's

I think I'm gonna go with the matrix real(2. I tried to do some tests with identity(4 and i just couldn't get it to work. It'll be more simple with the real(2 function anyways.

really? that is odd.

tell you what, I'll put my project off and tackle this project tonight. I will have extensive use of the IDENTITY(4) and create a simple walking around program with crash detection on a 120x120 scrolling tilemap.

maybe if i can accomplish this i can help you out with your progs

still, I want to figure it out. i hate being wrong

Alright well seeing as how I forgot to bring my charger with me this weekend (I went home), I won't be on the forums much. So just to give a little info about what I'll be doing, I plan on fully creating the save/load system. I also have switched from using a List and Strings to store information to using an AppVar to store it. I have the appvar set up, I now just have to change all parts of my code that use lists and strings. Shouldn't be too difficult. I'll update later on my progress with this.

Yeah large maps would be a pain, but all you're doing is converting the matrix number (0,1,2,...,18,etc) into it's hex form and putting it into a string. Even a large map wouldn't be bad.

I've made an ASM program that goes the other way (takes a string of hex values and converts it to the corresponding matrix), and I don't think it would be too hard to reverse the process so I'll see what I can do...

[edit]Scratch that.  The only reason I used ASM for converting to a matrix was speed, so actually ASM is probably overkill.  A BASIC program for matrix->string shouldn't be too hard though.