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Re: possible YUGIOH game
« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2010, 04:20:03 pm »
Kis, that;s the problem, I can't find a readme x.x if anyone find it, please give.

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Re: possible YUGIOH game
« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2010, 04:20:11 pm »
storing 40 cards wouldn't be too difficult. for each card you need:
-String name
-attack
-defense
-# of stars
-type. [trap card, monster card, etc]
attack and defense need about 2 digits of information each, # of stars can be modified for one, otherwise two. type can be one digit. that's 7 digits of information to be compressed into a list entry, and then the String name can probably be compressed into under 28 digits, which will fit into 2 list entries. then you'll just need a 300 element list for 100 card data, and at the beginning of the program decompress everything but the string names, which you can decompress on the fly. at least, that's my idea. would be infinitely more efficient in axe though. good luck with it!

But you need a whole scripted special effect for every card except normal monster cards...

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Re: possible YUGIOH game
« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2010, 04:21:08 pm »
sounds cool!  if you made graphical stuff before, maybe you can make cards with Line( or something.  ;)  also, you can look at the Axe programming language, Yu-Gi-Oh would be perfect for Axe.  ;)  you could also use libs if you have more experience.  ;)

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Re: possible YUGIOH game
« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2010, 04:21:39 pm »
runer, that's a good point, that's probably going to be harder than keeping track of all the names and stars and stuff...

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Re: possible YUGIOH game
« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2010, 04:21:51 pm »
storing 40 cards wouldn't be too difficult. for each card you need:
-String name
-attack
-defense
-# of stars
-type. [trap card, monster card, etc]
attack and defense need about 2 digits of information each, # of stars can be modified for one, otherwise two. type can be one digit. that's 7 digits of information to be compressed into a list entry, and then the String name can probably be compressed into under 28 digits, which will fit into 2 list entries. then you'll just need a 300 element list for 100 card data, and at the beginning of the program decompress everything but the string names, which you can decompress on the fly. at least, that's my idea. would be infinitely more efficient in axe though. good luck with it!

But you need a whole scripted special effect for every card except normal monster cards...

If statements in the main program loop can easily handle this. one overbearing if statement to see if the card is a trap card, then, depending upon the list index, nested if statements to select the correct animation.


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Re: possible YUGIOH game
« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2010, 04:27:21 pm »
It's not animation or graphics that I'm worried about. It's the fact that every card has a different effect that will need its own code.

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Re: possible YUGIOH game
« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2010, 04:27:58 pm »
It's not animation or graphics that I'm worried about. It's the fact that every card has a different effect that will need its own code.

Even thinking about the size this would take up scares me...even with Axe

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Re: possible YUGIOH game
« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2010, 04:29:05 pm »
well, if you have a subroutine (inside the program BTW) for each card and each card only did one or two things, that wouldnt be soo bad..
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« Reply #23 on: November 03, 2010, 04:36:07 pm »
yeah well lots of earlier cards had no effects so it won't be too bad i guess

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Re: possible YUGIOH game
« Reply #24 on: November 03, 2010, 05:01:08 pm »
Well you have to remember that some effects can be activated manually and some are automatic. So you'd have to check which one it is and then act accordingly. Plus each time a card is summoned you'd have to run a check and when it has died you'd have to run a check. Plus with each magic card doing something different that is a lot of If statements.
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Re: possible YUGIOH game
« Reply #25 on: November 03, 2010, 05:14:03 pm »
storing 40 cards wouldn't be too difficult. for each card you need:
-String name
-attack
-defense
-# of stars
-type. [trap card, monster card, etc]
attack and defense need about 2 digits of information each, # of stars can be modified for one, otherwise two. type can be one digit. that's 7 digits of information to be compressed into a list entry, and then the String name can probably be compressed into under 28 digits, which will fit into 2 list entries. then you'll just need a 300 element list for 100 card data, and at the beginning of the program decompress everything but the string names, which you can decompress on the fly. at least, that's my idea. would be infinitely more efficient in axe though. good luck with it!

If he wanted to include pictures, he could also have a separate string with all of the pictures using RLE for the pic as well as a default card outline.
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Re: possible YUGIOH game
« Reply #26 on: November 03, 2010, 05:21:43 pm »
storing 40 cards wouldn't be too difficult. for each card you need:
-String name
-attack
-defense
-# of stars
-type. [trap card, monster card, etc]
attack and defense need about 2 digits of information each, # of stars can be modified for one, otherwise two. type can be one digit. that's 7 digits of information to be compressed into a list entry, and then the String name can probably be compressed into under 28 digits, which will fit into 2 list entries. then you'll just need a 300 element list for 100 card data, and at the beginning of the program decompress everything but the string names, which you can decompress on the fly. at least, that's my idea. would be infinitely more efficient in axe though. good luck with it!

If he wanted to include pictures, he could also have a separate string with all of the pictures using RLE for the pic as well as a default card outline.

loading would be ridiculous though, since this is in basic.

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Re: possible YUGIOH game
« Reply #27 on: November 03, 2010, 05:31:39 pm »
Well pictures could be pretty easy. He could just use a generic picture used for all monsters, all magic cards, and all trap cards. That way you only have to compress three images. Or you could have a couple for each. But that would save a lot of space instead of giving each it's own image.
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Re: possible YUGIOH game
« Reply #28 on: November 03, 2010, 05:33:35 pm »
I meant predominate as in most BASIC games are ASCII ;)
ASCII and text-based are not the same thing.  ASCII counts as graphics.  Yes, a lot a BASIC games are ascii.
ASCII is one of the only options for graphics in pure BASIC.  (in fact, if you want any sort of speed at all, you have to use letters and numbers and stuff).

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Re: possible YUGIOH game
« Reply #29 on: November 03, 2010, 05:35:21 pm »
I meant predominate as in most BASIC games are ASCII ;)
ASCII and text-based are not the same thing.  ASCII counts as graphics.  Yes, a lot a BASIC games are ascii.
ASCII is one of the only options for graphics in pure BASIC.  (in fact, if you want any sort of speed at all, you have to use letters and numbers and stuff).

just to clarify, if someone outside the context of a calculator game mentions "ASCII", it does not mean they are referring to graphics. they are referring to how numbers are encoded into letters.