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Re: Rolling ball that jump with tracks in 3d and stuff. where you just try to stay..
« Reply #60 on: October 02, 2011, 09:24:59 pm »
This looks pretty nice. It reminds me a lot of <a href=http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/96/9687.html>this</a> game by Andreas Ess. It was originally for the TI-85 I think... I really like the addition of grayscale. Are you going to add objects on the map? For example: A tile that temporarily increases speed, a tile that launches you into the air and propels you forward, or spikes? Just some ideas. I'm also unsure if the outline is necessary. It looks a bit distracting to me.
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Re: Rolling ball that jump with tracks in 3d and stuff. where you just try to stay..
« Reply #61 on: October 02, 2011, 09:33:40 pm »
Thank you for your interest.  That is what keeps projects like mine alive and well.

I thought the outline made it better, but you can disable it by holding down enter at the start of the game.
When changing viewing distance to 48 pixels, there is a major increase of visibility, but it is much slower and lags with the outline mode.

I do plan on having more tiles.
Also, I just made an awesome speed optimization :D.  Any optimization withing drawing routine is huge :P
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Re: Rolling ball that jump with tracks in 3d and stuff. where you just try to stay..
« Reply #62 on: October 07, 2011, 03:35:23 pm »
Haha. Downloading this when finished.
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Re: Rolling ball that jump with tracks in 3d and stuff. where you just try to stay..
« Reply #63 on: October 07, 2011, 09:39:23 pm »
thanks.
progress is slow due to me being busy, but it is coming along.  Not sure how well it will turn out in the end however ;)


Made a few more slight optimizations by lowering the quality.  the funny thing is that the top pixels aren't shown anyways, so the quality is exactly the same.

My biggest problem is making the sprites for the tracks right now :/
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Re: Rolling ball that jump with tracks in 3d and stuff. where you just try to stay..
« Reply #64 on: October 08, 2011, 10:00:40 pm »
It looks done now, from the screenies. What in the world do you have left to add?
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Re: Rolling ball that jump with tracks in 3d and stuff. where you just try to stay..
« Reply #65 on: October 08, 2011, 10:02:11 pm »
thank you for the kind words, but it really isn't close to finished :(
My most immediate problem is compatibility with 83+.  I am currently running in Full mode.

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Re: Rolling ball that jump with tracks in 3d and stuff. where you just try to stay..
« Reply #66 on: October 08, 2011, 10:15:21 pm »
Oh. Use lines instead of checker patterns! Less draw time.
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Re: Rolling ball that jump with tracks in 3d and stuff. where you just try to stay..
« Reply #67 on: October 08, 2011, 10:23:05 pm »
lol, quite the opposite.

Just trust me.  the way i am doing it is much faster.  Not sure how to explain it.
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Re: Rolling ball that jump with tracks in 3d and stuff. where you just try to stay..
« Reply #68 on: October 08, 2011, 10:53:43 pm »
That, is illogical.
I'm all ears :3
EDIT: Not literally, that would be WEIRD
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Re: Rolling ball that jump with tracks in 3d and stuff. where you just try to stay..
« Reply #69 on: October 08, 2011, 11:34:42 pm »
Crazy Idea: rotation and velocity control. Think like the chocobo Screen in FF6
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Re: Rolling ball that jump with tracks in 3d and stuff. where you just try to stay..
« Reply #70 on: October 08, 2011, 11:49:34 pm »
Quote from: boot2490 on October 08, 2011, 10:53:43 pm
That, is illogical.
I'm all ears :3
EDIT: Not literally, that would be WEIRD
Only every other pixel gets chosen to be checked to be if drawn.  It cuts out half the routine.

Quote from: willrandship on October 08, 2011, 11:34:42 pm
Crazy Idea: rotation and velocity control. Think like the chocobo Screen in FF6
could you explain that one?

(Never played FF6 as i didn't have a supported system)
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Re: Rolling ball that jump with tracks in 3d and stuff. where you just try to stay..
« Reply #71 on: October 09, 2011, 12:03:00 am »
I think he means you can turn. THAT would be cool
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Re: Rolling ball that jump with tracks in 3d and stuff. where you just try to stay..
« Reply #72 on: October 09, 2011, 12:05:21 am »
Quote from: boot2490 on October 09, 2011, 12:03:00 am
I think he means you can turn. THAT would be cool
You two seem to think I am smarter than I am.  I will try to teach myself real 3d sometime then...
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Re: Rolling ball that jump with tracks in 3d and stuff. where you just try to stay..
« Reply #73 on: October 09, 2011, 12:10:25 am »
Don't take that too seriously.
I think it is fine as it is. How is drawing over 100 pixels in one frame faster than drawing four lines for each platform? That would have a decent framerate in BASIC.
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Re: Rolling ball that jump with tracks in 3d and stuff. where you just try to stay..
« Reply #74 on: October 09, 2011, 12:32:10 am »
Well, it's still not real 3D

Another example = F-zero, either calc's version, or the SNES's. Basically rotating Mode7, with the jump physics. You could make a puzzle game of sorts!

@boot2490 Axe's Pixel drawing is blazingly faster than Basic's, while its line drawing routine isn't nearly as improved. Keep in mind that in Basic, the main slowdown is the fact that it has to be interpreted by a crappy interpreter, so everything is slow. Line drawing is fairly complex, since it has to determine slope in a form that it can draw on-screen per pixel. I can see why Pixel drawing would be faster in some cases.

In fact, in axe it's faster for vertical or horizontal lines to be drawn with a 1-pixel wide rect() command than the line command, even though it draws the pixels twice.
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